Originally Posted by speedxl
Its about food allergies, I guess we should bann peanuts too since people can die from it!
If paragon was as deadly as carbon monoxide, carburator cleaners, digreaser, throttle body cleaner, brake dust, etc why hasnt "OSHA" banned all that stuff?
Because its deadly only if used improperly. Look its your choice not to use chemicals as is smoking. Also there are a few house cleaning agents that state "use only in a well ventilated area". If you want to be safe use medical gloves to work on your rc cars and use fans to circulate fresh air.
Just sitting in your car with the a/c on in traffic your inhaling larger amounts of deadly fumes then a weeks worth of paragon!!!!! You guys are making a big deal out of nothing.
Just be smart about about how this stuff is used, if anything to reduce any risk ask track owners to get big industrial fans to circulate fresh air through the building. Auto shops have big exhust fans to help with the carbon.
If I pissed someone off with my post sorry, I wont lose sleep.
funny you should mention the peanuts. i was just on a flight out of florida on the weekend and they announced that there was a child passenger who was allergic to peanuts, and asked everyone
to refrain from eating anything that had peanuts in it. they altered what they served as in-flight snacks. this is ONE child on a plane of over a hundred.
peanuts might not harm you, but it might harm or even kill someone else. does it make sense for the powers that be to make a regulation to protect your habits from harming others? like smoking indoors? or eating peanuts on a plan? sure it does. "no man is an island" and i don't mind refraining from peanuts out of consideration for another.
"only deadly if used improperly" you say. well, would it be proper to run your SUV engine in, say, a closed garage? maybe connect a pipe from the exhaust right into the driver side window where you are sitting. is that proper? or maybe get 150 people in a closed room and have each open a can of traction compound (or for argument sake, a slightly toxic can of solvent) 4 times a day? some people don't even seal the can properly after usage, they just leave it half open all day.
go through this thread and you will find there are a LOT
of people here who have posted that they feel all kinds of sick (heache, nausea, etc) after being around this stuff. there are also those of you who don't. i can understand how you might feel like your right of choice is being impinged on because of other unfortunate people. but don't you think that is a bit short sighted?
another similar example might be spray paint. ever have anyone try to paint a body indoors at the track? if not ventilated properly people get headaches from the solvent. its not a smart thing to do, and if done a lot, there will be adverse affects over time. there is no "ban" on that per se, but i'm betting in almost every case, a track owner/operator will not allow that to occur. so i can also see "banning all compound" sounds drastic. but the way we are exposed to it is different. at my local indoor track motor spray, or other chemicals are barely used when compared with traction additives.
i will be the first one to admit that eliminating traction compound is a great challenge because 1) people love traction, that will be hard to give up (also the main reason people love foam tires but we won't go into that), and 2) giving up additives also means there is a new way to cheat. if you go back through this thread i think i might have even been the first to mention the policing aspect.
ideally, if everyone honestly stopped using traction additives, then everyone would be in the same boat, the fastest guys would still be the fastest. this last iic '06 race in vegas had a lot less traction than the year before in '05, and guess what - the laptimes were faster in '06.
allowing only certain compounds introduces the challenge of people who might 'cheat' using unsanctioned compounds, so i think the suggestion to ban all compounds was viewed as a more viable solution.
since this is being met with such adamant disagreement, i would like to ask all the people who don't favor the outright banning of compounds - what if there was a way to attain the same level of traction you have now, but without compounds... would you then
agree to eliminating the usage of compounds?