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Old 10-14-2007, 09:08 PM   #4246
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Not bitching

Just questioning the fact that everyone no matter what event there at is all running the same rubber tire setup..

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Old 10-14-2007, 10:06 PM   #4247
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Not bitching

Just questioning the fact that everyone no matter what event there at is all running the same rubber tire setup..
Im sure their setups are not EXACTLY the same....for example...Im sure the geometry of the Juho/masters setup is sound for its application....but if you think that the grip level is higher than the Masters race, then maybe stiffen it a little....maybe stiffer shock springs or something....but major changes will probably just dial you out....
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:36 PM   #4248
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51,
is it possible to get the setups from the IIC posted on the Associated website?
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:10 AM   #4249
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Hi everyone, I know some people are using the Team Bomber front belt, but is anyone using the rear belt from Team Bomber?
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:28 AM   #4250
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Hi everyone, I know some people are using the Team Bomber front belt, but is anyone using the rear belt from Team Bomber?
G'day Chris,

The Team Bomber belt (rear) does not fit. The front is slightly longer (more teeth) than the standard belt (it fits quite nicely).

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Old 10-15-2007, 02:42 AM   #4251
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Hi guys!

Well. I also drove at the International Speed Weekend and used nearly the same setup as Juho's from the lrp race.
But we used Much More Sweep tires which were a little different than the V-tec or CS-tires! They had much more grip.
All Associated's had the problem of flipping.

What really helps was useing the thick upper plate, not the ITF.. It works good.

And you have to check you twaek after every run. This is very important....
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:08 AM   #4252
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i have seen some very nice handling tc5's on rubber tires and they have not had sway bars on them


brandon is that your iic setup.... for a jack only track and jaco tires ?
Yes, that was what I used at IIC. That is speciafically for the Jaco tires. I did learn that all the practice I did before the race didn't apply to my car on JTG. Before the Jaco's were available I was practicing on RP30's with Paragon and the the set up I used on that combo was WAAYY different to make the car drive the same on race track.

PS- If anyone using Paragon and non Jaco's I can email set-up I used for that also.
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:26 AM   #4253
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What really helps was useing the thick upper plate, not the ITF.. It works good.
Were those running the stock top deck also locking it down without the Orings in the 4 rear mounts?
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Some people have metnioned a set-up for rubber tire carpet in stock class, try this and tweak from there.

Front-
50wt oil, #2 piston
Gold spring
5.25 mm ride height
7mm droop (on gauge)
3rd hole out on tower, out on arm
6 deg caster
1mm of shim behind hinge pin mounts F and R
2A postion for mounts
1A ackerman
2mm wheelbase shim in rear, 1mm in front of arm
#3 camber link position
-1.5 deg camber
one way

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40 wt, #2
blue spring
5.5 mm ride height
6mm droop using gauge
3rd hole out on tower, inside hole on arm
2mm toe @ bulkheat, .5 deg outboard toe
2A position for mounts
3A camber link with 1 mm shim underneath ball stud
2mm shim at rear of arm, 1mm in front of arm for wheelbase
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If I left anything out just ask,
what cam holders front and rear, and belt tension numbers??? thanks
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Hey guys- I received quite a few PM's for set-up. Rather than typing it each time, I am going to scan a copy of the set-up sheet tonight and send one email including all addresses.
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what cam holders front and rear, and belt tension numbers??? thanks
umm, can't remember off hand, it'll be on the sheet I send you. Belt was loosest setting F and R I know. Standard cams just dont remember if I was med high and med low, I changed that around few times, but the sheet has what I ended up with.
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also what chassis and top deck did you use Brandon??
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ITF top and bottom. Was using O rings at first on top deck but took them out as it had a hint of push. After removing the orings and getting the chassis to where it felt balanced to my liking, I controlled steering with amount of sauce, which was really noticable. If I sauced 3/4 it had little push, if I sauced whole Front tire it would tip and roll, so it was a fine line.
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:15 PM   #4259
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Am I missing something here? I couldn't fit a 36 tooth pinion in the car while running the stock 87 tooth spur gear. I had to go down to the 84 spur.

How are you fitting a 43 tooth pinion with a 100 tooth spur? Is that using 64 pitch?


I just got my TC5 2 weeks ago, getting back into the hobby. Of what I remember and of what all my old buds are doing is running 64 pitch. It is a pain in the ass to set up but it is much smoother. I haven't tried it yet myself but will be before the weekend. Of what I'm hearing is that you have to install the pinion gear after the motor is mounted. I've also heard that you have to put a small knotch in the top plate so your wrentch can tighten the pinion. Any of ya guys that have been running 64 pitch confirm this or is there a better way?
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ITF top and bottom. Was using O rings at first on top deck but took them out as it had a hint of push. After removing the orings and getting the chassis to where it felt balanced to my liking, I controlled steering with amount of sauce, which was really noticable. If I sauced 3/4 it had little push, if I sauced whole Front tire it would tip and roll, so it was a fine line.
cool, thanks Brandon
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