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Old 09-20-2001, 12:56 PM   #421
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Old 09-20-2001, 04:27 PM   #422
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At least we don't have to worry about that on the track.
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Old 09-20-2001, 05:39 PM   #423
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Simon, I run mainly P2Ks. My best P2K pulls 131 watts max on the dyno. I put an MVP on there, and it was only 122, tweaked it, tuned it, and it went down to 117. Put another on there, started at 120, and I managed to get it up to 123. 8 watts difference is huge! I know some people have had great success with them, so the ones I tested must just have been duds. BUT, if they are half price, hell yeah! Go for it! 767s will work, but you may also want to try the new 766s.

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Sppedo,

don't look at the dyno numbers.
Mine show the same numbers on my dyno, but are killer fast in the car

I'm using the narrow brush setup with a very hard spring on the positive side
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Old 09-20-2001, 06:56 PM   #425
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Geppetto and Speedo-
Email me, and I'll tell you how to get a good MVP to outrun a P2K. It's not just the brushes, it's a whole tune......
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Old 09-20-2001, 08:54 PM   #426
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Old 09-20-2001, 09:59 PM   #427
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Thanks for the suggestions guys, I'm very tempted to get one now. Any recommendations on Brush springs to run?
I'm guessing that gearing it more like a GM3(Low) will be the way to go, my home track is very technical so it'll need to rev.

I was also thinking about using PEAK brushes(Depending on availability of 767s) and spring combo from the Spitfire. If anyone knows what the possible results would be, please let me know. Any other spring recommendations gratefully accepted.

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Old 09-20-2001, 10:03 PM   #428
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BigDog, thanks, but I don't have one...They were some other dudes. No one here really likes them...It seems they just take more effort to tune than the P2K. I'm waiting for the P2K2!!!
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Speedo- All the more reason to use one to beat the other guys. Wouldn't you like to be the only one that could get an MVP to fly at your track? I would. Anyway, I don't really care either way.... just trying to be nice.
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Speedo- You're right about tuning the MVP. They do take a little time and effort to tune. The Rage before them were much easier to tune, The P2K was too inconsistent to me, I would only get one good one for about every 5-6 cans. I did learn alot about the MVP during the nationals. I'm curious to see how the new P2K does after the smoke screen the green machine laid....LOL
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STLNLST,
why don't you tell us?

I'd like to see how others get them to perform.

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Thanks for the offer BigDog, but I'll just stick with my trusty P2Ks
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Hehe, I guess I should come to Washington then.... it would be nice to be the fastest person on the race track for once...LOL
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BigDog, uh, yeah
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Stephan- What I found out at the nats is that maybe 2 out of every 10 MVP's can be tuned the same way. What I mean by that is take a P2K for example....say Reedy 767's with green springs was a basic tuning point for 95% of the P2K's out there so you knew what brush and spring combo to start out with everytime you got a new one. Well with the MVP's I haven't been able to find a standard combo that works in every motor just to start out with. Out of 14 cans I had to practice with at the nats maybe 2-3 had the same combo on them. Every other motor had different brushes or springs on it. All of the tuning was checked on the Robitronics dyno and the CE dyno. The brushes that had the best results that I liked were the Reedy 766, the Trinity 4070, and a old Xipp stock brush(I don't know what the part number for this brush was but we still had a few sets lying around from way back when) Some of the cans liked having a heavier spring on the positive side while some liked the same spring all the way around. We were even putting different brushes on each side. We did just about everything but feed the motor pizza during the nats. The biggest thing that you can do to the motor to start out with is line up the brush hoods and true the comm. I'm no motor expert but it's no problem for me to share info that works for me.
Let me know how everything turns out.
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