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Old 01-18-2017, 04:38 PM   #46
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Amain says 364 for the KD and 424 for the KC, why such a price difference?
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Old 01-18-2017, 06:41 PM   #47
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and a ae with all the needs lol
Not quite, a B6 needs nothing but an aluminum horn to be competitive on
med/high to high grip tracks.

Fastest guy at our track runs a dead stock B6, its even built with factory oils.

Schumachers have never been cheap and this car is no exception. Drivetrain and
shock wear even things out in the long run.
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Seems like the KC maybe more popular than the KD. Maybe the KC with a ball diff for medium bite dirt tracks? I really like the new KD,KC and seems to be the best 2wd coming out, but at 399 I'm just not that dedicated to 2wd as I enjoy 4wd much more...How long before the K4D and K4C come out ?


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It's already out. It's called the cat k2 and it has all those surfaces covered. 👍🏻
If anyone is looking for a K2 pm me. I have 2 loaded ones for sale. One is an ex
team guys car that pretty much has every option available.
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Not quite, a B6 needs nothing but an aluminum horn to be competitive on
med/high to high grip tracks.

Fastest guy at our track runs a dead stock B6, its even built with factory oils.

Schumachers have never been cheap and this car is no exception. Drivetrain and
shock wear even things out in the long run.
That may work there but it's not working here
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Old 01-18-2017, 07:11 PM   #50
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That may work there but it's not working here


Adams car is in the middle and its dead stock. 3rd place Kyle Latham so its
not like where a bunch of hacks. To be fair Kyle was losing a diff and he beat
us like rented mules in 17.5.

Medium high bite astro. Yeah most guys are adding bars and weight plates but the car is VERY good out of the
box.

None of this is meant to insinuate the KC is not going to perform extremely well.

2 different cars meant to compete in different price points, not really a fair comparison.
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o your talking about running the car stock in 17.5. I'm speaking about mod. I misunderstood you
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Old 01-18-2017, 07:23 PM   #52
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o your talking about running the car stock in 17.5. I'm speaking about mod. I misunderstood you
No mod, the 17.5 guys are doing what 17.5 guys always do. Kyles stock car
looked like a mod car running. Of course he is national champ in 17.5 so you
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Excellent. You guys should come down to April fools this year. We have a few national champs ourselves
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Sweet looking buggy! I may add it to the short list for my next purchase.
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Have they addressed the durability of these cars? I have a KR and it breaks parts if I look at it wrong. If I was a hack driver I wouldn't care but I drive carefully and still find broken parts after a few runs. Compared to an AEB6 or an Xray XB2 the Shumacher is a china in a bull shop. I love the construction and cool parts but spend a lot of time fixing instead of practicing/racing.
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Old 01-18-2017, 10:05 PM   #56
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According to the KC and KD manuals and exploded diagrams, the ball differentials of both kits use the same diff balls and diff washers but different diff outputs.

KC Ball Differential
U3750 Diff Output; Male - Cougar SV
U3751 Diff Output; Female - Cougar SV

KD Ball Differential
U4005 Diff Output; Female - Cougar SV2
U4006 Diff Output; Male - Cougar SV2

What is the dimensional difference (e.g. bearing post length, outdrive length) between these two different sets of diff outputs?
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Have they addressed the durability of these cars? I have a KR and it breaks parts if I look at it wrong. If I was a hack driver I wouldn't care but I drive carefully and still find broken parts after a few runs. Compared to an AEB6 or an Xray XB2 the Shumacher is a china in a bull shop. I love the construction and cool parts but spend a lot of time fixing instead of practicing/racing.
What are you doing to it?? I've run an SVR for three years without breaking ANYTHING! All I've ever done is put the hex conversion on it. Put it on the podium in 17.5 at the state titles this year against all the mid motors too. Bullet proof IMO.
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Yeah I have to agree about the durability! They are durable IMHO. I have since switched to AE for cost reasons and because they are more popular so getting advice is easier but I still like schumacher ALOT! Ran the SV2 and aside from the occasional broken arn the car was SOLID! Really, no complaints except parts are pricey and not alot of place stock any parts so have to carry stuff and be prepared of day is over! They are expensive but they are just as durable as any other car out there
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Just to add something on the durability.
I've just had to replace the front and rear arms on my KF, as they have worn out, after 3 Years of weekly mod racing, and only 1 broken arm.
I don't think this exceptional durability is unique to Schumacher, it seems all cars have improved, but Schumacher is just as durable as the rest.
When it comes to transmission, the diff out drives, shafts and gears have been faultless, with no slotting of the diff outdrives, where people running alternative brands have seen some slotting.
Despite this low wear rate, I have pre ordered the new cars. I was satisfied the KF was still competitive on carpet, slippy floor and astro, until I saw the new KC and KD. The KF has lasted well, but I feel these two new cars provide the opportunity to have the best 2wd available for all conditions.
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Ya in 5+ years of racing Schumacher I think I've broken a handful of parts. And those all deserved to break I assure you lol

Racing at the pace of modified carpet racing, a weak car simply will not last. Schumacher have proven time after time they are at the top of the list of durability
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