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Welcome to the EB410 Wiki page.

Basic Stats/Features:
  • Shaft drive (tapered AL for light weight and straightness)
  • Gear differentials (all 3)
  • Low Angle CVAs (with captured pins so no ejecting them!)
  • Durable stub axles with 12mm hexes and optional offset adjustments
  • Reverse bellcrank steering system
  • Quick access bulkheads (for easy diff maintenance and tuning)
  • Spllt center diff holder (for easy diff maintenance and tuning)
  • 8th scale style motor mount (for easy mesh adjustment)
  • 13mm big bore shocks
  • 3.5mm shock shafts
  • Droop screws

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Servo Horns
Tekno included a plastic servo horn but also offers an aluminum one. This is highly recommended. Here's a list of servo horns that have been found to work:
Gearing:
Works out of the box for mod or 13.5.
  • Preference for Associated factory team pinions
  • Start mod gearing around 21t pinion
  • Start 13.5 gearing around 29t pinion with the stock spur (81tooth). If using a Tekin Spec R 13.5, start with a 24t pinion for medium sized indoor tracks.
  • Internal Gear Ratio: 2.5:1
  • For comparison:
  • B64 is 2.47:1
  • 22-4 is 2.4:1
  • YZ4 is 2.6:1

Wheels
  • B6/22/rb6 wheels direct fit
  • 22-4/XB4 front wheels direct fit
  • B64 front wheels will fit, but you need the +1 hexes (can use #TKR1654X, which is a +1mm hex)
  • 22 2wd front wheels will also fit, possibly a good option for carpet.

Setup Sheets and other documentation
Setup sheets for all Tekno RC vehicles can be found here. Please be sure to try our recommended setup. It works very well on most tracks.
Piston Drills:
Some of our setups recommend using pistons that are enlarged. For instance 4x1.9 or 3x2.0. To drill the pistons we recommend the following:
Aftermarket Upgrades:
Warranty Policy:
Tekno RC is the only company in the industry that will give 50% off of parts if returned to them using the General Warranty return policy found on their website. The parts can be lightly used or completely abused, as long as the part is still being produced it's covered!


Build Tips:
  • When fastening the steering posts with a 5.5mm socket wrench, you can back space the socket with some nuts to help drive the post into the bulk head

  • Place an alcohol swab over metal threads and drive screws through the swab to clean both sides of threads before applying thread lock

  • Use a metallic marker to indicate what fluids you have filled in your diffs for easy identification

  • Apply thin layer of grease on crown gears to help hold gaskets in place for easy hole alignment

  • Bags F and H have 2 different size set screws, be sure to use the smaller 3x3mm screws for the hexes or you may run into problems installing wheels over the hex if you use the longer 3x4mm screws
  • To make is easier to slip the o-rings on the shock cap bleeder screws, apply a drop of shock oil and slip them over a 1.5mm hex bit, then line up the bit with the screw and transfer the o-ring over using fingernails or needle nose pliers
  • pinch+rotate shock caps in 17mm hex wrench to improve roundness
    More shock build tips here
  • Use a 3.05mm drill bit or 3.05mm Kyosho arm reamer, 1/8" drill bits are not recommended because they are 3.17mm in diameter and tend to introduce too much slop, the pins are roughly 2.97mm in diameter
  • Replace the stock 3x14mm screws (TKR1405) with 3x20mm screws (TKR1409) in step H-10 in the manual in order to increase durability to the bulkhead.

  • When installing the front and rear differentials into the bulkheads be careful when tightening the 3x8mm screws of the cover that holds the diff in place. Bottom out the screws first (use a hand driver and make it hand tight) then check the diff to make sure it rotates smooth. If it binds up, start by backing out each screw 1/8-1/4 of a turn until the both front and rear diffs move freely. The plastic threads will keep the screws in place so don't worry if you think the screws are not secure.
  • When installing the steering hub kingpins (TKR6596), drive each one in hand tight only. Then check the movement of the steering hub. If it binds up, back out the kingpin screws by 1/8-1/4 of a turn until it moves freely. Then install the set screws (TKR1601) to hold it in place. Only drive the set screw in until you make contact with the kingpin. Do not force it.
  • If using the low profile servo mount, be sure to use smaller OD (outter diameter) washers to avoid rubbing on the center drive shaft. Protek ball stud washers are a good example of the acceptable diameter. You can chose to not run washers though it is recommended to use them as it makes for a more secure mount.

  • Ball Cup Alternative from AE: ASC91453. These are used as a harder composite option if you are not happy with the softer stock plastics. Note that these are approximately 2-3mm shorter and require compensation when building your kit to the manual specs to achieve proper camber/toe settings


  • Wheel Nut Alternative: Yokomo 4mm Thin Aluminum Serrated Flanged Nut

    https://www.amainhobbies.com/yokomo-...-n4flt/p541494


  • Moving Rear Shocks to the Front of the A-arm

    This is the break down of what's required by one of the Eb410 FB users.

    Joey A.

    So since there has been some people wondering about running the shocks in the front of the arm I though I would try explaining everything that I did to get them to work and why. My goal was to run as much stock stuff as possible with the least amount of modifications.

    -Arms- need to be flipped and 1mm shaved off the back (spacing the arm farther back) running it this way the car is still a mm shorter then stock but more material could be removed for more adjustability but I have found no need to make the car longer.

    -Inner ball stud- there are 2 ways of mounting, the first can be used with the stock plastic tower. All you need to do is use a 10mm ball stud instead of the lower shock mount screw and a little clearance from the shock tower and diff case. Using this method will work but the ball stud is moved lower and farther in then the stock locations which requires different pivot locations to try and correct roll centers. The other way (preferred) using the option carbon tower drill a hole higher and farther out if done properly you will be able to get the ball stud location in the correct hight(0mm) and between the two stock locations.

    -Shocks- only 2 changes from stock you will need to space the top shock mount 2mm out. You will also need to run around 1.5-2mm less droop depending on your setup.

    -Sway bar- this is the hardest part of the swap. This can be done a million ways I chose to print a mount in the stock ball stud location which allowed me to use the stock swaybars and arm mounting position. You can also bend your own bar and use the stock mounts on the back. You will have to drill your arms on the other side and closer to the pivot for this to work (remember you will need a thinner bar the closer you mount the lower pickup on the arm to get the same feeling as stock).

    -Other- you will need to remove the drop screws on the rear arm. Depending on rear rims,hubs,ballcups and setup you might need to clearance the outer ball cup so it doesn’t rub on the wheel.

    -Why- the benefits of running the shocks in the front are the ability to run a softer rear shock package without giving up corner speed and pack. The car will land without chassis slapping or packing out as easy allowing you to drive the car harder and it corners flatter and rotates faster without losing rear grip.

    Sorry for the shity grammar,
    TJR

    Sway bar mount for forward mounted shocks: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tekno-EB410...4AAOSwYNxahFkq

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Old 08-25-2017, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 90sRacer
Look at the pic of the underside. Who else is worried about marshals facing the car in the wrong direction when flipped over!! LOL

Chassis protectors with a big arrow facing front....problem solved!
EDIT: Actually, not flipping over...problem solved!!
Not really worried at all. Thinner tires up front, plus the rear wing is pretty key for identifying the rear.

The only vehicles I've ever seen confuse marshals are the short course trucks.
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Cain my friend, I got a buddy whom runs Sworks 1st Gen S104 being the EK1. The chassis is very narrow through the back half, thus the weight bias favors the front big time. probably more so than any wheeler I have seen. He runs his on our bumpy low bite dirt tracks and the thing is a beast. He has weight added at the azz end of the chassis which has his wheeler locked nice on our low bite conditions. I am betting that the EB410 will easily "beast out" on low bit bumpy dirt conditions.

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Ok I pre ordered.
It is now time to show a picture of the inside
Matt, you're killing me here
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No more? We've never used set screws to secure pins on any of our kits, except on some of our conversion kits.
I worded it wrong... very few brands use captured CVD's in 1/10 cars, and most use set screws (which I dislike)... I meant to ask if Tekno was doing things different and I'm very glad to see you are

Thanks for addressing all my questions too Matt, really looking forward to getting one of these kits soon. It's like you guys have made all the refinements that I wish were made to the ER14, oh and nice call on using gullwing front arms, that's been a wish I've had for a while on my K2.

Hopefully Tyler gets his kit soon and can help you guys out with a decent turf setup
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funny, Amain has EB410 up for pre-order and has already dropped price on AE 4wd

tower has EB410 up for $506.99 pre-order http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXGWWY&P=SM
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Originally Posted by Pinkz
funny, Amain has EB410 up for pre-order and has already dropped price on AE 4wd

tower has EB410 up for $506.99 pre-order Tekno RC 1/10 EB410 Competition Buggy 4WD Kit | TowerHobbies.com
-$50 for using the right coupon code.
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Originally Posted by Pinkz
funny, Amain has EB410 up for pre-order and has already dropped price on AE 4wd

tower has EB410 up for $506.99 pre-orde
true. Take in mind that amain improved their overall site, sales, stand still with their 5stars cs reputation, even improved the shipping optios few months ago while tower step down in all the previous points .. no wounder the price tag shows non sense by their side.
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So... now I'm anxiously awaiting the EB410.3.

Also, its crazy how Amain dropped their prices on the B64/D, TLR 22-4 2.0 and the YZ4 with the release of the EB410.
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A-Main has it for $400
https://www.amainhobbies.com/tekno-r...kr6500/p695785
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And you can use a $35.00 discount code with the pre-order........very tempting.
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So... now I'm anxiously awaiting the EB410.3.

Also, its crazy how Amain dropped their prices on the B64/D, TLR 22-4 2.0 and the YZ4 with the release of the EB410.
you'll not tolerate waiting untill 410.3

I think that the rear dirve shaft comes shorter than the one upfront, it will be exactly as of her big sister the eb48 .. you'll buy it .....


... me too
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Originally Posted by Matthew_Armeni
There could be one there right now. And it might have been there since yesterday.
That's good news. To bad I'm stuck at WORK.. Guess that's a good thing if I'm going to order a new car.
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you can knock off about $40 (10%) on amain with the right code.

As for tower, if they do like they normally do, the initial price should come down. I am assuming if people call and email them abut the price that is suggested for street and what others like amain is selling it for, it could be that it gets to the $399.99 price point.

I do find it interesting to see the other 4wd vehicles mentioned drop in price. Personally, I think $350 - $399 range is a sweet spot for 1/10 4wd to keep the class growing. The vehicles are already getting the durability they need for newer drivers, coupled with the growing 13.5 class and you have a winner. Its why personally even though where I run is set as full mod, I still keep running 13.5 to show others usable power.

Excited to see the next announcement!
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Originally Posted by Cain
you can knock off about $40 (10%) on amain with the right code.

As for tower, if they do like they normally do, the initial price should come down. I am assuming if people call and email them abut the price that is suggested for street and what others like amain is selling it for, it could be that it gets to the $399.99 price point.

I do find it interesting to see the other 4wd vehicles mentioned drop in price. Personally, I think $350 - $399 range is a sweet spot for 1/10 4wd to keep the class growing. The vehicles are already getting the durability they need for newer drivers, coupled with the growing 13.5 class and you have a winner. Its why personally even though where I run is set as full mod, I still keep running 13.5 to show others usable power.

Excited to see the next announcement!
A-Main will match Tower's non-member coupons. I emailed them and they confirmed what I read on this site. The only stipulation is that you need to call them when you order.
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So you can get it for $364.99 shipped from Amain using the $30 off code and free shipping. Not bad but that still won't stop me from buying from Pete (Fierce RC)!!!
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