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Here are some good build tips and notes from b1narych0ice (thank you):

Specific build step comments/warnings, including areas I replaced stock parts -- Think of this as a FAQ that answers questions I had from other builders about each step:

A-3: You can instead use TLR Aluminum Servo Mount here.
A-5: Be sure to get the shorter screw in the correct hole.
A-6: Use a 76 or 78T spur if you are running a 13.5T-21.5T motor instead of the 84 in the kit! and...
A-6: The plastic washer between the pulley and the thrust assembly should be oriented so that the flat side goes toward the pulley, and the side with the ring goes towards the thrust assembly's metal washer. Diagram in instructions is correct, you just can't see that this washer isn't flat on both sides from the illustration.
A-7: Be sure the nut holding the Full-Time 4WD assembly is nice and tight, I have seen it get loose in the 1.0 car!
A-9: Put the gears on the jackshaft before the c-clips, so that you don't have to deal with getting the c-clips off to put the gears on

B-2: It seems to be possible to push the outdrives on so tight that they bind when spun, be sure to ensure that they spin freely as the manual notes.
B-7: You're screwing the 1.3mm screws into metal, don't crank so hard you strip the heads on the screws. While this is metal-on-metal, the manual doesn't call for loctite here.
B-8: The rear diff has fewer/bigger teeth, the front diff has more/smaller teeth.
C-3/C-4: TLR Aluminum Bellcranks and Exotek steering rack can be used here to increase durability/reduce steering slop
C-8: TLR Aluminum A/B Horn can be used to increase durability/reduce steering slop.
D-2: Don't worry about the kingpins sticking out the front even when the nut is tight, the bumper will push them in and keep them there.
D-5: Shock tower screws were the tightest plastic part on my kit, look from the side when tightening down the tower at the gap between the tower and the front bulkhead, tighten until this gap is closed.
D-6/D-7: Don't mix up the CVA pins and the hex pins, should be easy because hex pins are black and CVA pins are silver.
D-8/D-9: Use a toothpick to get threadlock in the metal block instead of applying it to the shoulder bolt, so that you don't get it between the plastic spindle and the metal block.
E-1/E-2: Don't mix up the 10mm pins for the rear hexes with the 11mm pins for the rear CVAs! They are packaged together and both silver, so it's easy to think you just have 4 pins that are the same!
G-1: No need to install the post on the right side if you are running a shorty and use velcro to attach the body to the mud guards. You can move the right post up or down a little so that it snugly fits your shorty battery.
G-2: Aluminum Servo Horn can be used here.
G-4: Adjust the length of the link and the servo horn position so that both the servo horn and the horn on the bellcranks are parallel with each other, and perpendicular with the link.

Hope this helps some of you that are putting your kits together, and thanks to Frank and the TLR crew for a solid kit!

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Driveshaft Update from Frank - I've reviewed some parts today from stock. The 'issue' part is definitely the rear CVA driveshaft bone. The pin slot is not 90* to the bore for the barrel. We are working to get good parts made and here for CS use ASAP.

Some of the parts I checked were not 100% free, but definitely run-able. Keep in mind that the driveshafts should wear in fairly well, and quickly (within a few packs). If you have a 22-4 2.0 and are experiencing issues with the driveshafts, we won't have good replacements for probably a couple of weeks (no definitive timeline yet), so I would recommend running them on track for 1-2 packs, then rechecking. I think most will free up well.

I am sorry that we are having an issue. Everything was great during samples until production, but we'll make sure to get it right, and make it right for those with the bad parts.
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What is the proper level for the diffs...i am used to building 8th scale diffs, i would assume its the same?
Just under level. You need some room for the output gear that is in the cap.

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Frank can u explain what is the difference between the a and b horn, TLR331018?
It isn't the horn, it is the ackermann setting. B will have less off power, better mid corner steering. A will have more off power steering, less mid corner.

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Old 03-21-2017, 09:51 AM
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I have to say, yesterday was the first time racing it, I was the only racer running a 13.5, other guys were running 6.5's, 7.5's and 10.5's I qualified 2nd, only behind by 3 seconds, Definitely Loving this car..
Faster than they thought, I'll bet. Give those mod guys hell, maybe some wheelers will join you.
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Saw that happen to a buddy of mine a couple weeks ago. That should not happen. The threads should not come out of the shaft. Give Horizon a call and see if they will send you a replacement. He tried to thread that part back in to the shaft, but on the next qualifier and worked its way back out.
Thread locking it back in place (of course giving thead lock a chance to set) should solve the problem.
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Originally Posted by Casper
Thread locking it back in place (of course giving thead lock a chance to set) should solve the problem.
Thanks Casper...
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Thread locking it back in place (of course giving thead lock a chance to set) should solve the problem.
I told him to use Red loc tite and he looked at my like I was crazy. I mean, its not supposed to come back out so why not. Neither of my 22-4 2.0's have had that problem, knock on wood. Mine just like to spit the outdrives off randomly, lol
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Hmmm, red, I might have to pull it out, I used blue :-)
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Originally Posted by jabroni racing
I have to say, yesterday was the first time racing it, I was the only racer running a 13.5, other guys were running 6.5's, 7.5's and 10.5's I qualified 2nd, only behind by 3 seconds, Definitely Loving this car..
need to cup up to deans one day and run.
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I was at Deans for the most recent races.
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Originally Posted by 20 SMOKE
need to cup up to deans one day and run.
I was told they race saturdays, I work Saturday :-(
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every sat they race.
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Originally Posted by jabroni racing
Need some help. Was racing over the weekend & my car lost power, it appeared the clutch loosened up but whats really weird is the picture , thats the clutch nut on a short shaft, is the shaft that runs through supposed to be one piece or is it 2 pieces ? Looking at the end of that short shaft it doesnt look like it broke off so im Lost??
I like to put a slightly longer set screw into that slipper shaft (+1-2mm). If you run your slipper on the loose side, the nylock in the nut doesn't grab much tread.
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Originally Posted by jabroni racing
I was told they race saturdays, I work Saturday :-(
What days does SS hobbies race?
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S&S races Every Sunday
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Note to self... put blue loctite on motor screws on plate.... reason spurs stripping.

Btw main last night ... had a spectacular crash with a kyosho 2wd mod..... guess who finished the race?

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I need a bit of help guys, how do i remove this pin?
I attempted to push out with a small hex driver but it's in too tight.
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try needle nose pliers, one tip on pin, other on the other side of hex or axle as leverage
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