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Here are some good build tips and notes from b1narych0ice (thank you):

Specific build step comments/warnings, including areas I replaced stock parts -- Think of this as a FAQ that answers questions I had from other builders about each step:

A-3: You can instead use TLR Aluminum Servo Mount here.
A-5: Be sure to get the shorter screw in the correct hole.
A-6: Use a 76 or 78T spur if you are running a 13.5T-21.5T motor instead of the 84 in the kit! and...
A-6: The plastic washer between the pulley and the thrust assembly should be oriented so that the flat side goes toward the pulley, and the side with the ring goes towards the thrust assembly's metal washer. Diagram in instructions is correct, you just can't see that this washer isn't flat on both sides from the illustration.
A-7: Be sure the nut holding the Full-Time 4WD assembly is nice and tight, I have seen it get loose in the 1.0 car!
A-9: Put the gears on the jackshaft before the c-clips, so that you don't have to deal with getting the c-clips off to put the gears on

B-2: It seems to be possible to push the outdrives on so tight that they bind when spun, be sure to ensure that they spin freely as the manual notes.
B-7: You're screwing the 1.3mm screws into metal, don't crank so hard you strip the heads on the screws. While this is metal-on-metal, the manual doesn't call for loctite here.
B-8: The rear diff has fewer/bigger teeth, the front diff has more/smaller teeth.
C-3/C-4: TLR Aluminum Bellcranks and Exotek steering rack can be used here to increase durability/reduce steering slop
C-8: TLR Aluminum A/B Horn can be used to increase durability/reduce steering slop.
D-2: Don't worry about the kingpins sticking out the front even when the nut is tight, the bumper will push them in and keep them there.
D-5: Shock tower screws were the tightest plastic part on my kit, look from the side when tightening down the tower at the gap between the tower and the front bulkhead, tighten until this gap is closed.
D-6/D-7: Don't mix up the CVA pins and the hex pins, should be easy because hex pins are black and CVA pins are silver.
D-8/D-9: Use a toothpick to get threadlock in the metal block instead of applying it to the shoulder bolt, so that you don't get it between the plastic spindle and the metal block.
E-1/E-2: Don't mix up the 10mm pins for the rear hexes with the 11mm pins for the rear CVAs! They are packaged together and both silver, so it's easy to think you just have 4 pins that are the same!
G-1: No need to install the post on the right side if you are running a shorty and use velcro to attach the body to the mud guards. You can move the right post up or down a little so that it snugly fits your shorty battery.
G-2: Aluminum Servo Horn can be used here.
G-4: Adjust the length of the link and the servo horn position so that both the servo horn and the horn on the bellcranks are parallel with each other, and perpendicular with the link.

Hope this helps some of you that are putting your kits together, and thanks to Frank and the TLR crew for a solid kit!

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Driveshaft Update from Frank - I've reviewed some parts today from stock. The 'issue' part is definitely the rear CVA driveshaft bone. The pin slot is not 90* to the bore for the barrel. We are working to get good parts made and here for CS use ASAP.

Some of the parts I checked were not 100% free, but definitely run-able. Keep in mind that the driveshafts should wear in fairly well, and quickly (within a few packs). If you have a 22-4 2.0 and are experiencing issues with the driveshafts, we won't have good replacements for probably a couple of weeks (no definitive timeline yet), so I would recommend running them on track for 1-2 packs, then rechecking. I think most will free up well.

I am sorry that we are having an issue. Everything was great during samples until production, but we'll make sure to get it right, and make it right for those with the bad parts.
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What is the proper level for the diffs...i am used to building 8th scale diffs, i would assume its the same?
Just under level. You need some room for the output gear that is in the cap.

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Frank can u explain what is the difference between the a and b horn, TLR331018?
It isn't the horn, it is the ackermann setting. B will have less off power, better mid corner steering. A will have more off power steering, less mid corner.

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What would be better for 13.5, 2.0 or 1.0?
Ran them back to back and I can tell you that the 2.0 pulls harder out of the corners. The gear diffs give the buggy more snap.
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Originally Posted by tsair
FYI, 22-4 2.0 is on sale for $369 on Horizon.
Duh Dun Daaaaaa! You know what happens when the current car has been out about a Year and it Goes on Sale!!
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Originally Posted by Lone Drifter
Duh Dun Daaaaaa! You know what happens when the current car has been out about a Year and it Goes on Sale!!
Sorry, just a Labor Day sale this time...
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Originally Posted by Frank Root
Sorry, just a Labor Day sale this time...
Thats Ok I can wait.
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Does anyone know where I can find the roll pins for the front driveshaft assembly. All the roll pins I had laying around were too small, it seems to be a different style. TLR doesn't seem to sell them separately, only when you purchase the whole front driveshaft kit. Any suggestions? Thanks!


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Yes i know the feeling, I could not get mine out and when I did I could not find it, to replace it I had an old steering link, ala late 80's similar to a throttle link on nitro and just cut to length, now I have a few spares, just in case, when I was a kid I remember cutting nails to fit, the end off a drill bit, not roller pins but up and racing again.
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Originally Posted by lim202
Does anyone know where I can find the roll pins for the front driveshaft assembly. All the roll pins I had laying around were too small, it seems to be a different style. TLR doesn't seem to sell them separately, only when you purchase the whole front driveshaft kit. Any suggestions? Thanks!
Use these solid pins, and put a drop of glue on each end. They won't fall out, but are much easier to get out when it is time.
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Thanks guys!
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For the 22T hex, you need to use a1mm spacer, which part number or part can it be found within? Is it only TLR or can it be found by its dimension in other brands? If I don't need to buy a bag of parts unnecessarily all the easier!
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Todays project, wasnt crazy about taping in.
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Originally Posted by DG Designs

Todays project, wasnt crazy about taping in.
No tunnels!

How's performance?
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Originally Posted by MrLean
No tunnels!

How's performance?
I don't recommend removing the tunnels completely. Removing a lot of the tunnel will be okay, just not all of it. If there is too much fore/aft flex, it will allow the belts to skip, as already experienced by some TLR team drivers.
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I actually havent run it like this yet. There is a little bit of tunnel on the bottom Ill try it this weekend but plan on putting back the top tunnel, although probably modded as well. It seems like all the flex comes up top. The reason for this mod was more because i plan on running a LP pack and dont want to tape in. I have a buddy who is pretty fast and ran it without the tunnels at Surf city and did ok in 13.5. No way i would try this with anything hotter than that though. Frank knows what he is talking about.
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Has anyone seen this:

Red RC ? RC Car News » Exotek 22-4 2.0 aluminium front pivot mount

curious what would break after putting something like that on . . .
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Arms but those are stronger as well. Exotek makes great stuff. Bulkhead looks awesome.
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