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1) put inner bearing in hub
2) slide large shim over axle all the way up to the back of the axle
3) slide axle/bone into hub carrier
4) slide small shim onto axle through hub carrier
5) push outter bearing into hub carrier

using that i'm able to put my normal male silverback gorilla wheel nut tightening job and there's no binding. in the pictures that come with the shims (the pic socket posted) it seems like they want you to slide both shims onto the axle before sliding the axle into the hub carrier and like i said, that doesn't work.



I've traditionally done the diff screw head on the left side (driver's side), but have since switched to the Right side (passenger side) regardless of transmission type (3 gear RM vs 3 gear MM and 4 gear MM).

Kdub (Kurt Wenger, former AE designer) had this to say on the matter:

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I think I count as an authority on the matter. I always run my diff screw on the right side (when sitting "inside" the car). I take off the tire and pull the outer hinge pin to get to the adjustment screw.

The right rear is the way the AE manuals state (or used to state). It really shouldn't matter since you go around turns both left and right.
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Old 01-08-2017, 11:46 AM   #5146
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Got in another run on high traction carpet. was unable too podium and the car felt inconsistent on the rear end.

From what I could tell, it seemed to get upset over the bumps which the competition were able to glide over. Funny thing was my daughters vehicle actually was better. Which is a B6D with some settings from the B6 setup I am using, just not the b6 specific parts and still a ball diff.

The big difference I think is that my springs are stiffer than what she is running. Basically 1 rate below stock B6 (from memory I think gray?) and the Orange front springs with me running purples. I am thinking with a softer setup it may handle that bumpy section a bit better but still handle well around the rest of the track.

I also noticed I needed a tick more rear bite so I went 1mm down on the rear ballstud mount and that seemed to help.

I am hoping the track will be open for a test and tune day before the next race day (about 2 hr drive).

I'll post my setup but was basically running this but used:

- PT Racing oils about 50CST lighter than the conversion value.
- 3K diff fluid
- 17.5 blinky class

In short, running this setup:

http://site.petitrc.com/setup/associ...gring20160429/

Are any of the later carpet setups a better option?
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Hi all,

Based on lots of testing and racing down here in Australia (and at the Reedy Outdoor race), I have compiled a setup guide for the B6D on these sorts of tracks. The platform is hugely adjustable and we are learning all of the time, but I hope this helps some of you running on lower grip / bumpier tracks.

Any questions, hit up my help thread, send a PM or hit me up on Facebook.


Setup guide pdf on this post:
Ask Ray Munday - JConcepts, Reedy, Associated Aussie Support Thread

Additional notes and setups on this post:
Ask Ray Munday - JConcepts, Reedy, Associated Aussie Support Thread

Petitrc has compiled it here:
http://site.petitrc.com/setup/associ...oorSetupGuide/

Even in French!!
http://site.petitrc.com/setup/associ...uide/francais/
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Got in another run on high traction carpet. was unable too podium and the car felt inconsistent on the rear end.

From what I could tell, it seemed to get upset over the bumps which the competition were able to glide over. Funny thing was my daughters vehicle actually was better. Which is a B6D with some settings from the B6 setup I am using, just not the b6 specific parts and still a ball diff.

The big difference I think is that my springs are stiffer than what she is running. Basically 1 rate below stock B6 (from memory I think gray?) and the Orange front springs with me running purples. I am thinking with a softer setup it may handle that bumpy section a bit better but still handle well around the rest of the track.

I also noticed I needed a tick more rear bite so I went 1mm down on the rear ballstud mount and that seemed to help.

I am hoping the track will be open for a test and tune day before the next race day (about 2 hr drive).

I'll post my setup but was basically running this but used:

- PT Racing oils about 50CST lighter than the conversion value.
- 3K diff fluid
- 17.5 blinky class

In short, running this setup:

http://site.petitrc.com/setup/associ...gring20160429/

Are any of the later carpet setups a better option?
Cain, I had good luck on carpet with the box stock setup. Now you have me concerned because I just copied Cav's setup, but using 37.5/30 weight oils. I also have added the titanium screws, brass front bulkhead, and MIP rollers for gear diff. Oh, also using blue front, white rear swaybars. I won't know how it does until later this month....
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Cain, I had good luck on carpet with the box stock setup. Now you have me concerned because I just copied Cav's setup, but using 37.5/30 weight oils. I also have added the titanium screws, brass front bulkhead, and MIP rollers for gear diff. Oh, also using blue front, white rear swaybars. I won't know how it does until later this month....
yeah the box stock setup was really good from what I recall on our track and one of the faster guys said he was using that.

I also have the MIP Rollers for the gear diff and i am running the VRP battery tray setup that eliminates the waterfall.

A lot of it could be the conditions here.

The carpet is a mix of grey ozite and something "tan". the tan stuff can get "bumpy" in the areas it bunches and at times has more traction than the ozite. Then, the landing carpet has less traction than the ozite, so on some sections the landing is right after a jump into a 180 turn so the rear end could come around on you. That is where I decided to go down 1 shim on the rear ballstud mount.

But our conditions may not be common as "carpet" due to the bumpiness and I am thinking spring change could be the ticket. I am also a driver who needs my setup to be pretty ideal, then I can wheel it fairly well. with my kids with didn't have a time to tune. but will see how it goes. had fun though.

And this being AE, I expect to see setups from time to time out there versus how things were with my Durango.
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Ray Munday guide is like best ever guide for those of us forsaken and still race outdoor old school dirt type tracks


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Great to know its appreciated Good luck with your racing!

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Wow Ray,thats a pretty solid write-up going back to the 4.1. The knowledge being shared in this thread is golden; for everyone can glean something here. Awesome.
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has anyone tried to run the b5m phantom body on the b6d? I found an extra one laying around i didnt realize I had and wanted to check before I cut it up. Thanks !
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I also noticed I needed a tick more rear bite so I went 1mm down on the rear ballstud mount and that seemed to help.
Did you mean on the rear hub or the inner mount?
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Did you mean on the rear hub or the inner mount?
inner mount though to be honest if I had htem in the box I probably would have gone with 1 rate lighter springs instead first.
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took the B6D out for the first practice session yesterday. Id have to say this is the best car I've driven. Am use to driving Kyosho's.
No comparison. Glad I went back to AE. Now to improve my throttle control. lol
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Have some Alum. Rear Hubs on my SC5m. But I love the B6D way more so was thinking to switch them to the B6D - is it worth the upgrade / the work?
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That's work? Come on a hub change takes 3 minutes. Yes they will fir but u lose the ability to raise and lower the hub.
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Haven't touched a car in a while.....Looking forward to trying the b6d!
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