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1) put inner bearing in hub
2) slide large shim over axle all the way up to the back of the axle
3) slide axle/bone into hub carrier
4) slide small shim onto axle through hub carrier
5) push outter bearing into hub carrier

using that i'm able to put my normal male silverback gorilla wheel nut tightening job and there's no binding. in the pictures that come with the shims (the pic socket posted) it seems like they want you to slide both shims onto the axle before sliding the axle into the hub carrier and like i said, that doesn't work.



I've traditionally done the diff screw head on the left side (driver's side), but have since switched to the Right side (passenger side) regardless of transmission type (3 gear RM vs 3 gear MM and 4 gear MM).

Kdub (Kurt Wenger, former AE designer) had this to say on the matter:

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I think I count as an authority on the matter. I always run my diff screw on the right side (when sitting "inside" the car). I take off the tire and pull the outer hinge pin to get to the adjustment screw.

The right rear is the way the AE manuals state (or used to state). It really shouldn't matter since you go around turns both left and right.
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Old 09-05-2016, 12:00 PM   #3046
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Hope my Pistons questionndoesnt get lost in he fold. Pistons on med/high bite clay? 3 hole / 2 hole combo and why for varying conditions? Running a laydown. Thx!!!
welcome to the B6 club Jason. 3 hole is slightly smoother than the 2 hole. I will be at the track today to setup the new buggy too.... fun.
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3 x 1.4 pistons offer more pack or high speed damping than the 2 x 1.7 pistons (very similar hole area).
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Which are better for medium high grip, no huge jumps? AE or shelle? Thx
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Its about the pack or the ability to absorb a lot of shock without bottoming out. If you are running on a smooth track without the big jumps I would go with the 2 holers. I don't believe I have ever run Schelle pistons so I can't say whether they are better than the AE's or not.
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Thank you. I've always assumed, like the b5m, everyone was running aftermarket machined Pistons. Does the kit come with machines Pistons or is everyone using aftermarket Pistons? Thx - bought mine used
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Its about the pack or the ability to absorb a lot of shock without bottoming out. If you are running on a smooth track without the big jumps I would go with the 2 holers. I don't believe I have ever run Schelle pistons so I can't say whether they are better than the AE's or not.
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The kit pistons are not machined.
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The Facebook guys didn't care for it much let's see what you guys think. With the shocks in front getting the spur off is a challenge plus on my next body I won't need a hole. Lol that and I'm always looking for stuff to try. This cost me exactly nothing. Until I want to run the slipper again of course.
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The kit pistons are not machined.
while the kit pistons are not machined, they come off the tree much easier than the 5 series rides. there is next to nothing left to have to cut off after you get them off the tree (a lot of the pistons come off the tree on their own and are loose in the bag, at least mine were).
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The Facebook guys didn't care for it much let's see what you guys think. With the shocks in front getting the spur off is a challenge plus on my next body I won't need a hole. Lol that and I'm always looking for stuff to try. This cost me exactly nothing. Until I want to run the slipper again of course.
What's with all the spacers on your tower mount?
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What's with all the spacers on your tower mount?
for the body to rest on.
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What's with all the spacers on your tower mount?
I would guess it's so his body doesn't rub. On the spur.
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while the kit pistons are not machined, they come off the tree much easier than the 5 series rides. there is next to nothing left to have to cut off after you get them off the tree (a lot of the pistons come off the tree on their own and are loose in the bag, at least mine were).

I was just comparing the kit tree pistons versus the machined ae. I was surprised how much space there is between the kit piston and the wall of the shock shaft compared to how smooth and perfectly fitted the machined sit against the wall of the shock body. I wonder if fluid bleeds heavily around the edges of the kit pistons? The space was enough to see.
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I was just comparing the kit tree pistons versus the machined ae. I was surprised how much space there is between the kit piston and the wall of the shock shaft compared to how smooth and perfectly fitted the machined sit against the wall of the shock body. I wonder if fluid bleeds heavily around the edges of the kit pistons? The space was enough to see.
Yes, they refer to this as "blow by". That is why you pay the $$ for the machined pistons, so you dont have to worry about that. It may seem like a small thing, but i noticed with the original RB5 how much of a difference it made.
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I have the same question as below. Also noticed Kurt wengers newer setups have the 3 hole Pistons in front. Can anyone opine on the rationale behind this? Trying to make piston selection. Thx in advance

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Ive never messed with 3 hole pistons. Am i understanding it correct that 2x1.7 will have less high speed compression the 3x1.4. My car feels really good with 27.5 and 2x1.7 other than the chassis slaps a little. Would the 3x1.4 help this but still be fairly soft in the corners?
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i can just say that on a medium grip indoor track, i started with a laydown and 3 holes in the rear. it was god awful. switched to 2x1.7's out back and that made a DRAMATIC difference. maybe on higher bite surfaces the 3 holes are the way to go, but for me, i had very little rear traction with them. becasue the track is small, any positive gain from more pack for bigger jumps was lost because there are no big jumps so the ass end just slid out everywhere.
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