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1) put inner bearing in hub
2) slide large shim over axle all the way up to the back of the axle
3) slide axle/bone into hub carrier
4) slide small shim onto axle through hub carrier
5) push outter bearing into hub carrier

using that i'm able to put my normal male silverback gorilla wheel nut tightening job and there's no binding. in the pictures that come with the shims (the pic socket posted) it seems like they want you to slide both shims onto the axle before sliding the axle into the hub carrier and like i said, that doesn't work.



I've traditionally done the diff screw head on the left side (driver's side), but have since switched to the Right side (passenger side) regardless of transmission type (3 gear RM vs 3 gear MM and 4 gear MM).

Kdub (Kurt Wenger, former AE designer) had this to say on the matter:

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I think I count as an authority on the matter. I always run my diff screw on the right side (when sitting "inside" the car). I take off the tire and pull the outer hinge pin to get to the adjustment screw.

The right rear is the way the AE manuals state (or used to state). It really shouldn't matter since you go around turns both left and right.
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:08 PM   #151
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wow, this is how you setup a thread!

Buddha, it's a little old, but I also like this simple tuning guide (as well as some of the explanations) from elvo.

Table of Contents; Suspension & Handling Articles (click Setup Guide on left)

http://users.telenet.be/elvo/
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Comparing the b5m to the yz2, is like comparing the b5 to the b5m. Different style car. The yz2 steers because it has less rear grip.
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:13 PM   #153
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Default rear shock locations

can someone please explain why the b6d has rear shocks mounted in the back of arm versus b6 in front of rear arm? is it for traction purposes? how does each location affect each car per their respective surfaces that they are intended for? like i read somewhere in the past day that a true carpet lcg car needs the shocks in the front of the rear arm. whats the story with that? thanks in advance for any explanations.

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can someone please explain why the b6d has rear shocks mounted in the back of arm versus b6 in front of rear arm? is it for traction purposes? how does each location affect each car per their respective surfaces that they are intended for? like i read somewhere in the past day that a true carpet lcg car needs the shocks in the front of the rear arm. whats the story with that? thanks in advance for any explanations.

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glenn, Kody mentions something about this in the EOS video on Redrc...Maybe someone who runs turf/carpet can provide an explanation that i can post on the first page.
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It is a tuning option. You can mount them how ever like
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glenn, Kody mentions something about this in the EOS video on Redrc...Maybe someone who runs turf/carpet can provide an explanation that i can post on the first page.
thanks buddha i'll check out the video again, and yea an explanation of the differences would be appreciated by someone. thanks wildcat, understand its a tuning option, but in what capacity. like why must a true lcg carpet car have the shocks up front? is it because it doesnt need as much traction? does having them in the back of arm do in fact increase traction? like what are the characteristics of the tuning options? thanks.

just check out video by kody and all he mentions is that under really high grip conditions it is really important to have shocks in front of arms. but doesnt really explain why.
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Putting the rear shocks in the front increases steering.Putting the rear shocks in the back less steering more rear end traction. Yokomo yz-2 you can do both Front or Rear.
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also noticed the idler gears between the b6 and b6d are different, with the carpet car having a noticeably larger looking idler. is its gear diff smaller to compensate in compared to b6d ball diff? Or do they have different final drive ratios? thanks
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also noticed the idler gears between the b6 and b6d are different, with the carpet car having a noticeably larger looking idler. is its gear diff smaller to compensate in compared to b6d ball diff? Or do they have different final drive ratios? thanks
Final drive is the same. It's because the upper shaft is farther away from the diff gear. Basically think of it as stretching out the transmission.
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Putting the rear shocks in the front increases steering.Putting the rear shocks in the back less steering more rear end traction. Yokomo yz-2 you can do both Front or Rear.
yea makes sense, thats what i was thinking. i guess its almost like changing the fulcrum point of the rear end. thank you.
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Final drive is the same. It's because the upper shaft is farther away from the diff gear. Basically think of it as stretching out the transmission.
thanks cameron. so basically the only gears that really affect the gear ratio internally are the topshaft and diff? idler tooth count is rather arbitrary?
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thanks cameron. so basically the only gears that really affect the gear ratio internally are the topshaft and diff? idler tooth count is rather arbitrary?
Correct. Shaft gear and diff gear makes the ratio. All the other gears between just make it spin the dirrection you want. They could use three small or one big same ratio either way.
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Correct. Shaft gear and diff gear makes the ratio. All the other gears between just make it spin the dirrection you want. They could use three small or one big same ratio either way.
Thanks cameron makes sense. thats why the 4 gear trannies are still same ratio
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Any idea, guess or thoughts if the b6 will use the same c and d mounts as the b5m? I'm wondering how many upgrade parts from my b5 will work on the b6. B5 Schelle rear hubs, pucks, and ti axels look like they may fit on the b6.

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Having driven both the B5s and the original YZ2 I can say the yz steers better and has higher corner speeds in its near kit form. However, the associated suspension absorbs the jumps better IMO, and it generates way more grip stock so it's a pushy setup from the kit settings.
If these new B6s can come close to the YZ2 in cornerspeed and still jump and generate grip better they will be on my short list to buy.

Having ran a lay down tranny (yz2) for over a year now I can definitely see the benefit of two seperate cars for high (B6C) and medium to low grip conditions (B6D).


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This has been my exact experience with the yz-2. I race at on high bite indoor clay and if the layout is relatively flat with lots of sweeping corners i can blow by the b5ms mid corner and turn a faster lap. If the layout has lots of jumps and rythm sections ive got nothing for them. Ths b5m settles way faster than my yz-2 after landing and they smoke me.


I too am really hoping th b6 has the corner speed of the yz-2 and the jumping of the b5m.
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