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1) put inner bearing in hub
2) slide large shim over axle all the way up to the back of the axle
3) slide axle/bone into hub carrier
4) slide small shim onto axle through hub carrier
5) push outter bearing into hub carrier

using that i'm able to put my normal male silverback gorilla wheel nut tightening job and there's no binding. in the pictures that come with the shims (the pic socket posted) it seems like they want you to slide both shims onto the axle before sliding the axle into the hub carrier and like i said, that doesn't work.



I've traditionally done the diff screw head on the left side (driver's side), but have since switched to the Right side (passenger side) regardless of transmission type (3 gear RM vs 3 gear MM and 4 gear MM).

Kdub (Kurt Wenger, former AE designer) had this to say on the matter:

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I think I count as an authority on the matter. I always run my diff screw on the right side (when sitting "inside" the car). I take off the tire and pull the outer hinge pin to get to the adjustment screw.

The right rear is the way the AE manuals state (or used to state). It really shouldn't matter since you go around turns both left and right.
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Old 07-16-2016, 12:37 PM   #1606
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When running MIP diffs we have to shim the axles closer to the diff so the bones don't pop out of the outdrives. I can't wrap my brain around how shimming the axles doesn't affect the wheel hexes negatively?? Shimming would bring the hexes inside the hubs if they even fit, right??? Also, wheel base width is shorter now too, right?? Maybe the hex offset keep them from rubbing the hubs??
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Old 07-16-2016, 12:43 PM   #1607
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Really impressed with the B6d after running it last night. Car seems to do everything slightly better than my b5m that had been tuned on for 1.5 years. Beat my previous b5m hotlap before the first pack was done with kit setup (and the track was dryer and lower grip than normal). The body looks great. If you haven't done so yet, get the Factory team machined shock bushings. They make the shocks even better. Received lots of comments on how good/fast my car looked. Only adjustments I made was to remove 1mm from rear ballstud and go up to 32.5 in the front shocks.
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When running MIP diffs we have to shim the axles closer to the diff so the bones don't pop out of the outdrives. I can't wrap my brain around how shimming the axles doesn't affect the wheel hexes negatively?? Shimming would bring the hexes inside the hubs if they even fit, right??? Also, wheel base width is shorter now too, right?? Maybe the hex offset keep them from rubbing the hubs??
The hexes don't move as there already pressed against the outside hub bearing. The only affect to the hex is less retaining pin plunge into the hex. There is no change to the rear wheelbase as the hubs do not move.
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The hexes don't move as there already pressed against the outside hub bearing. The only affect to the hex is less retaining pin plunge into the hex. There is no change to the rear wheelbase as the hubs do not move.
Ahhh! Less pin plunge is what I was missing.
Got it, thanks!
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Old 07-16-2016, 01:16 PM   #1610
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My B6 is good to go on carpet here in UK tomo, really pleased with the build, another big step from B5m. Less slop by far; especially steering.

As some comments above my main dislike (only dislike so far!) is battery mount; with motor wires over top lipo snags on the hexagonal posts when swapping...just all seems clumsy.

Someone mentioned the slots in chassis side rails...I'd love to see a decent Velcro strap mount instead of the big plastic mount.

Anyone know of anything suitable?
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Old 07-16-2016, 01:21 PM   #1611
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I'd be really interested in getting a B6 to run on turf and THIS track. Do you guys think a B6 would be fine on the track in that video? It's kind of a damp clay. Everyone runs slicks. They don't wear at all. (Just trying to give an idea of how much traction there is)
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I'd be really interested in getting a B6 to run on turf and THIS track. Do you guys think a B6 would be fine on the track in that video? It's kind of a damp clay. Everyone runs slicks. They don't wear at all. (Just trying to give an idea of how much traction there is)
Doesn't look like its high enough grip. A lot of people swinging rear ends, no one fighting traction roll. Honestly, from what we've been seeing, the 6D with a laydown seems to be the best setup for everything besides carpet or turf. You could probably buy a b6 and a ball diff and be set for either surface.
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Nothing left to do except run it and track side changes.
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Old 07-16-2016, 02:13 PM   #1614
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Just got finished with my B6D build. Car went together very well, but I have two gripes.
1) I don't want to re-create the same drama the B5 ball-cup discussion did, but these ball cups have already pissed me off. I went to adjust the rear camber and on the first turn of the wrench, the ball cup at the wheel popped off. Yes, these new ball cups have a hole in the top to insert a wrench, but you can't get a wrench on the one inside the rear wheel. So damn annoying when trying to make a quick camber adjustment and the link pops off.
2) I put the antenna tube in the hole and run the grub screw in beside the antenna tube and that antenna tube still pop's out of its hole by simply bumping it with the body. I literally think I will need to get one of those antenna-less RXs for it.

Good news is that I was able to get my old B5M bodies to fit fairly well. They don't fit perfect, but they won't pop off and still look good.

A couple of quick questions on parts compatibility from the B5M to the B6D. Will the JConcepts front axle with clamping hex from the B5M fit the B6D? And will the JConcepts B5M aluminum wing mount fit the B6D? Both looks very similar, but I'm too lazy to pop them off and try for myself.
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A couple of quick questions on parts compatibility from the B5M to the B6D. Will the JConcepts front axle with clamping hex from the B5M fit the B6D? And will the JConcepts B5M aluminum wing mount fit the B6D? Both looks very similar, but I'm too lazy to pop them off and try for myself.
It *should*, but let us know if it does or does not.
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Just got finished with my B6D build. Car went together very well, but I have two gripes.
1) I don't want to re-create the same drama the B5 ball-cup discussion did, but these ball cups have already pissed me off. I went to adjust the rear camber and on the first turn of the wrench, the ball cup at the wheel popped off. Yes, these new ball cups have a hole in the top to insert a wrench, but you can't get a wrench on the one inside the rear wheel. So damn annoying when trying to make a quick camber adjustment and the link pops off.
2) I put the antenna tube in the hole and run the grub screw in beside the antenna tube and that antenna tube still pop's out of its hole by simply bumping it with the body. I literally think I will need to get one of those antenna-less RXs for it.

Good news is that I was able to get my old B5M bodies to fit fairly well. They don't fit perfect, but they won't pop off and still look good.



A couple of quick questions on parts compatibility from the B5M to the B6D. Will the JConcepts front axle with clamping hex from the B5M fit the B6D? And will the JConcepts B5M aluminum wing mount fit the B6D? Both looks very similar, but I'm too lazy to pop them off and try for myself.
Im actually a little disappointed in the ball cups too. was super excited when I seen that associated had updated them but they might have actually made them worse then the b5m ball cups. I have never had a ball cup pop off on my b5m or t5m. but always felt there was alot of slop in the b5m ball cups. the new ball cups have just as much slop but pop off super easy. if I dont hold the ball cup while making camber adjustments it pops right off. im hoping this isnt an issue while racing if you bump a board or something ball cup pops off. other than that the b6 is by far the best car ive built. associated did an amazing job on this one.
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Ugh... Tower has had my order listed as "Invoiced - Processing in Warehouse" for 4 days now...

They charged my paypal so I'm dying for this kit to get to me already....
Which kit? B6D?


I ordered the B6 on Thursday from them and it shipped yesterday afternoon.
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With the call cups: run them in further than you need by hand and then back out. Make sure to use black grease or somethin similar on the threads. Once you have turned them in and out a couple times they are just fine and adjust without issue. Yes, I thought they popped off real easy when I didn't run them in and out a couple times first. After running this car for several packs they are awesome! A very good improvement over the B5 cups. I will be adding these to my T5 and SC5
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Need to know on a b6 if anybody is trying the kit set up with 2.5* of for 1* Anit sq. and did you use a Hudy or any type of set up gauge to check to see if its @ 2.5* toe.. Thanks
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Old 07-16-2016, 04:35 PM   #1620
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Setup station? Never neede one... Ever
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