When 3s for 4x4 SCT?
#61
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The following is pure fiction: Just got off the phone with my old pal Steve Mruk(don't ask) and he said the committee has approved the idea of a 4x4 sct super class starting March 31. He would like all track owners to shoot him an email for all the details. Motors will be limited to 3000 or less kv, and a 3s battery system. Weight limit will be 6 1/2 pounds plus. 8th scale tires will be allowed.
Just to confirm, a lower weight limit of 6.5 lbs?
Even though I did pick up some 2S lipos for 4x4 SCT already, I'd be game.
What motors out there right now meet the 3000Kv limit in a 4 pole 540 or 550 size you are seeing platgof?
#62
i ran the 2400kv castle motor (1415) in a losi 810 on 3S and it was just a tick slower than the faster 4S setups on the track and even with most.
#63
At Roar events they usually run E Buggy classes, and SCT on the same track. I am thinking a new 4x4 class needs to be established to bring the fun back to SCT. All the 8th E buggy companies out there would have an easy time with conversions like Tekno did, to make a 4x4 sct from an 8th scale design.
Just don't expect to run them them on 1/10 scale tracks anymore.
So go ahead, take your pick; a 1/8 scale car you can only run during the summer, or a 1/10 scale car you can run anywhere anytime. You just can't have both.
#65
I would really enjoy seeing a race with cars set up this way. It would really be nice to be able to use such a system. I had no idea these are that fast, thanks RC Phreak.
#66
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I have been running my 3000KV 550 can Tekin motor on 3s in my Tekno 410sct for a long time (my home tracks will allow it). It isn't about speed, it is about run time and being easier on the electronics and batteries. My batteries don't puff like they used to when I was running on 2s, which makes them safer and less likely to start a fire either at the track or at home as a result of stressed batteries. About a year or so ago myself and a few of my friends wrote letters in email form to ROAR asking for them to restructure 4x4 sct to allow 3s. I also even posted it here on RCT. I really do hope that they change the rules because as most have already mentioned, this is one of the most fun classes to run and I'd love to see it's resurgence.
#68
All of you do realize that there are also carpet off road tracks. I work P/T at a LHS(small mom and pop business)that has a on road and off road carpet track. We have a 2s limit for EVERY class that races off road. Owners have stated the even with low KV motors and 3s, it would be detrimental to the ozite carpet. Heats and mains are ONLY 6 min tho. Track size is 90'x32' which I believe is one of the bigger ones in the area. Our 4x4 SCT class has motor limits as well, nothing over 4600kv for 540/"550 class" 4 poles and nothing under 4.5T for true 550 2 poles. I just wanted to add input to this thread and didnt want to come off as an ass. Hope everyone had a good Christmas and have a Happy New Year as well...
#69
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I tried a 3s setup with a hw 3400 kv and smc 4300 3s pack and it was too much power to drive consistently. I had it geared for the same speed as my 2s 4700 setup and the acceleration was crazy. Would pull wheelies at 1/2 throttle on an scte. The battery is the same size and weight as a 2s 7000 pack. I think something in the 2400 to 3000kv range would be much better.
#70
Yeah, 3000 kv is the top as far as 3s is concerned. Good points SKelly, thank you for giving it a go. I just picked up a DESC10, and you can bet I want a 3s system in this. I will run 2s for awhile, but nagging all the way(think Christmas carol.) The DESC10 and Teknos beg for a 3s system. I see carpet tracks in the same league as indoor tracks. You don't run 4s buggies either, so why bother us with this. We are mainly concerned with outdoor tracks that also run 4s buggies.
#71
Just weighed my DESC10 and it is 7.73 lbs with a 5800 battery in it. I really need a 3s to pull this around the track. When I puff these batteries, hello 3s. ROAR needs to wake up and realize the Tekno and Durango are not the old school slash 4x4, but 8th based vehicles with the weight that goes with it. Just look at the size of these shocks, humongous!
#72
I have no issues running 2S, if 3s is approved im down for it... that will be sweet. But even if is approved, is gonna take a while for tracks to adapt to new rules. Im not putting my truck away and wait for the 3s rule. I see a new tekin pro4hd 3000Kv in the future...
#73
or a Tekin T8I 2750!!!!
Last edited by platgof; 01-12-2016 at 04:37 PM.
#74
There are a lot of tracks dropping 4x4 sct because of poor turnout. Yet the 8th scale 4s is growing like crazy, why, because they are fun, and 2s 4x4 sct is too much maintenance with the limited electronics. I know the class would explode with 3s on board.