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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.

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Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root).

Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either.

I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'.

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Old 11-29-2015, 07:34 PM   #541
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Has anyone ran 17.5 in this car yet and if so what gearing are you using?
Running 70 31 as recommended with kit , tekin gen3 coming off track @ 125*F
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Running 70 31 as recommended with kit , tekin gen3 coming off track @ 125*F
Did you find a 70t that runs the HD pads? Or did you ha e to go back to the smaller 1.0 pads? If the heavy duty pads, what's the part number for the 70t spur?
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Does anyone know about a baseline price I could sell my 2.0 roller with a new body and a couple sets of wheels for? Or is there a different thread where I can get this type of question answered easier?
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Does anyone know about a baseline price I could sell my 2.0 roller with a new body and a couple sets of wheels for? Or is there a different thread where I can get this type of question answered easier?
Amain was just selling new ones for $159
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Saw the 3.0 run tonight. Team Driver JC Johnson was doing work with it in mod buggy. Car looked super easy to drive.. very quiet, very smooth. Fastest car on the track.
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Old 11-30-2015, 05:36 AM   #546
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Did you find a 70t that runs the HD pads? Or did you ha e to go back to the smaller 1.0 pads? If the heavy duty pads, what's the part number for the 70t spur?
Running the 1.0 setup ( pads and spur gear ) as far as I know 70t no available in hd pads , would be nice to see them manufactured due to the popularity of 17.5 buggy class
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Car looked super easy to drive.. very quiet, very smooth....
I forgot to mention how quiet and free of vibrations the drivetrain is. It is significantly quieter than some other 2wd buggies on the market. I am using an Avid slipper / spur gear taken from another car so I know it isn't the spur/pinion making the difference. The topshaft is aluminum and the idler/diff gears are a plastic similar to the competition so I am not sure how to explain it.
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i use the ae slipper with the vented plates...i use jc spur gears...its light, and parts are easy....i dont know why but i never liked the old style losi pads...
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Looks like the 3.0's have hit the east coast. Picking mine up at lunch. Christmas came early for me!
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my buggy shipping out from the west cost be here in two day
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Lunsford is on the ball already with 22 3.0 titanium parts.
https://www.lunsfordracing.com/mm5/m...ode=CARS-L2230
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Looks like the 3.0's have hit the east coast. Picking mine up at lunch. Christmas came early for me!
Mine arrived this morning from R/C Excitement. The build starts tonight!
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i use the ae slipper with the vented plates...i use jc spur gears...its light, and parts are easy....i dont know why but i never liked the old style losi pads...
I find the Losi slipper pad design more difficult to keep together/aligned when assembling compared to others. Never bad enough to make me change out the parts since I don't find myself working on it that often.
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Mine arrived this morning from R/C Excitement. The build starts tonight!
I'm glad you got yours, but I find it odd that ordering directly from Horizon within an hour or two of it going up for pre-order got me the short end of the stick.
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I'm glad you got yours, but I find it odd that ordering directly from Horizon within an hour or two of it going up for pre-order got me the short end of the stick.
I'm just guessing here but...maybe because you live on the eastern side of the country Horizon is waiting for the kits to arrive at the Illinois warehouse for orders to start flowing for the east coast. Maybe the west coast Horizon shipped all the west coast customers as well as the countries hobby shops orders last week. Either way it sucks for those without kits.
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