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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.

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Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root).

Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either.

I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'.

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Old 02-03-2017, 08:45 AM   #4276
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Aren't the SR rear arms pre-drilled with the hole to run the shocks on the front of the arms with the Xfactory kit? If so, can you buy those arms separately? TLR234047 gives no indication of the pre-drilled hole.
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Old 02-03-2017, 09:15 AM   #4277
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My guess is it will be released as a new version of the 3.0, much like they did for the 3.0SR.

3.0DL and 3.0CL, you heard it here first...
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I hope its a simple conversion
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I hope its a simple conversion
That would contradict Losi/TLR's 30+ year history (of making expensive conversions for existing platforms), but here's hoping.
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Doesn't look like we are going to get a F2 for the 22 but the YZ2 one fits ok
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I see a lot of setups with Kyoshow gold Springs front and rear. Anyone know what TLR Springs are close?
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I see a lot of setups with Kyoshow gold Springs front and rear. Anyone know what TLR Springs are close?
Hopefully this helps

http://site.petitrc.com/setup/kyosho...Bore/Chart.pdf
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I see a lot of setups with Kyoshow gold Springs front and rear. Anyone know what TLR Springs are close?
Not sure what the spring rate is on the Kyosho Mediums, but here are the TLR Low frequency spring kits.

http://www.tlracing.com/Products/Def...odID=TLR233012
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I run Orange FT and Yellow RR for my track and setup. Hope this helps.
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I see a lot of setups with Kyoshow gold Springs front and rear. Anyone know what TLR Springs are close?
You can try to compare rates and get close, but the kyosho springs don't feel the same on the track as any of the losi springs. If you are trying to copy a setup I would get the exact springs. petitrc has a bunch of spring charts to help get an idea, but each brand of spring feels a little different.
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Hey guys just after some info, when running the laydown is shocks in front of the tower more suited to high grip or lower grip tracks.
Currently looking for a touch more rear grip on corner exit
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Hey guys just after some info, when running the laydown is shocks in front of the tower more suited to high grip or lower grip tracks.
Currently looking for a touch more rear grip on corner exit
Shocks in front of rear arms are geared towards high grip.
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Some people on a facebook page are asking if the speck car drive train will handle a 13.5 motor without any problems?
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Hey guys just after some info, when running the laydown is shocks in front of the tower more suited to high grip or lower grip tracks.
Currently looking for a touch more rear grip on corner exit
What anti squat are you running. Reducing will help with increasing side bite.

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less anti-squat:
more side traction in corners
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more anti-squat:
less side traction in corners
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I see a lot of setups with Kyoshow gold Springs front and rear. Anyone know what TLR Springs are close?
I run kyosho gold up front and yokomo green in rear
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Frank or Casper I have been wondering if using the laydown chassis has any advantage or disadvantages when running 3 or 4 gear stand up?
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