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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.

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Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root).

Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either.

I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'.

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Old 09-16-2016, 07:44 AM   #3496
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the same could be said for the rear oil thicker than the front....32.5 front, 35 rear.....car is much better...

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OK, Please explain? What changed verses TLR231037? Is this for the laydown conversion?
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my guess is they are stiffer, and you use them to reduce flex
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OK, Please explain? What changed verses TLR231037? Is this for the laydown conversion?
These are stiffer, and provide more consistence. The fit both the standard 22 3.0 and the laydown conversion. The team runs them exclusively.
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Are there still fitment issues when building the most current version of this kit?
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Are there still fitment issues when building the most current version of this kit?
I didn't have any.
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Frank or anyone else. First race with the car yesterday. Local track got a complete make over. We were running slicks prior, now we're running dirt webs/ electrons. Prior on a couple of test days the car was pretty decent. I really struggled yesterday. I still made the A but it was a handful. Basically the car lacked traction and was really unpredictable. I would say traction is medium at best. Running 3 gear stand up. Basically stock setup up except I moved the rear hubs forward. Any suggestions would be great. I know the track will come around as far as traction, but it's gonna be a couple of months and I need to get my car hooked in the mean time.
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Are there still fitment issues when building the most current version of this kit?
I've built 3 cars and haven't had any fitment issues at all.
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I myself am struggling with the same issue with my dirt Laydown I tried several different tires and was still loose running 10.5 on a new clay track. Slipper is loosened up. May try snugging up the diff a bit

QUOTE=tony montana;14674318]Frank or anyone else. First race with the car yesterday. Local track got a complete make over. We were running slicks prior, now we're running dirt webs/ electrons. Prior on a couple of test days the car was pretty decent. I really struggled yesterday. I still made the A but it was a handful. Basically the car lacked traction and was really unpredictable. I would say traction is medium at best. Running 3 gear stand up. Basically stock setup up except I moved the rear hubs forward. Any suggestions would be great. I know the track will come around as far as traction, but it's gonna be a couple of months and I need to get my car hooked in the mean time.[/QUOTE]
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Hey guys. When using the dirt laydown, do I use the stock rear hubs?
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I myself am struggling with the same issue with my dirt Laydown I tried several different tires and was still loose running 10.5 on a new clay track. Slipper is loosened up. May try snugging up the diff a bit

QUOTE=tony montana;14674318]Frank or anyone else. First race with the car yesterday. Local track got a complete make over. We were running slicks prior, now we're running dirt webs/ electrons. Prior on a couple of test days the car was pretty decent. I really struggled yesterday. I still made the A but it was a handful. Basically the car lacked traction and was really unpredictable. I would say traction is medium at best. Running 3 gear stand up. Basically stock setup up except I moved the rear hubs forward. Any suggestions would be great. I know the track will come around as far as traction, but it's gonna be a couple of months and I need to get my car hooked in the mean time.
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