26LikesTLR 22 3.0 Race Kit Thread!
08-23-2016, 10:37 AM - Wikipost
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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.
Franks response: Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root). Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either. I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'. K.King Something I made, pretty basic. Just to give people an idea. 
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08-24-2016, 08:17 AM
#3391
My dilemma. I need a second car to run on a very groomed indoor track. I have alot in to my 3.0 for the out doors. I have a 22 2.0 But from the looks of a laydown conversion and a dirt kit plus all the bs to convert a 2.0 or the big cost of a 3.0. How do you guys think this compare to 309.00 for a b6 Opinions please
08-24-2016, 09:00 AM
#3392
Have a B6, YZ-2 CA, and the TLR with the dirt laydown is hands down the best option as of right now. With the B6 I haven't been able to play with its setup much. On the 22 3.0 I just changed over chassis and transmission for the dirt config, all other things like shock packages and springs didnt need to change. It's expensive, but in my mind its the easiest way to go right now.
08-24-2016, 09:32 AM
#3393
Ok, you like the tlr3.0 laydown, and that is cool. You say the tlr is the easiest? How so? The yok, xray and AE cars come with laydowns, no need to buy a chassis and etc. You have the b6, but never messed with it, yet the tlr is by far the best? How so? I am all for side by side comparisons, that talk to the strengths and weaknesses of the cars. But your blanket statements are not very well supported in your post. Please elaborate.
08-24-2016, 09:37 AM
#3394
not supported by.. just a list of the products I run. Trolling, nah. Just asking for details. Details help customers looking to switch make an informed decision. I monitor this thread,because I have friends that run tlr, and i like to keep educated on the car. A local is actually selling a laydown 3.0 car, that I was debating for my 10 year old. But having a TLR rep call me a troll, does not encourage me to buy the car from my friend.
08-24-2016, 09:48 AM
#3395
not supported by.. just a list of the products I run. Trolling, nah. Just asking for details. Details help customers looking to switch make an informed decision. I monitor this thread,because I have friends that run tlr, and i like to keep educated on the car. A local is actually selling a laydown 3.0 car, that I was debating for my 10 year old. But having a TLR rep call me a troll, does not encourage me to buy the car from my friend.
08-24-2016, 09:48 AM
#3396
not supported by.. just a list of the products I run. Trolling, nah. Just asking for details. Details help customers looking to switch make an informed decision. I monitor this thread,because I have friends that run tlr, and i like to keep educated on the car. A local is actually selling a laydown 3.0 car, that I was debating for my 10 year old. But having a TLR rep call me a troll, does not encourage me to buy the car from my friend.
08-24-2016, 09:53 AM
#3397
To the OP Rozzy, If you want an unbiased review look up Jason Snyder's videos on Youtube. He reviews both the 3.0 and the B6 (although I don't believe he has done a TLR laydown review yet).
Overall we don't need to litter the 3.0 thread with B6 posts and the same for the B6 thread.
I got skills
08-24-2016, 11:28 AM
#3403
I'd be interested in keeping the laydown discussion in this thread... I haven't been active in the thread for a while, but have been following along the banter and I appreciate it FWIW.
I'd also be interested in learning about how many pro drivers are still running the stock transmission on a med-high bite smooth clay track?
I haven't made the conversion to the dirt laydown yet, but considering it... my biggest fear is messing up my setup because my car is already doing very well for me as is... I was talking to another local this weekend who didn't have any luck with turf laydown (not sure what it's called, the non-dirt laydown?) and his lap times got exponentially worse for him.
At the very least, it would be nice to have some sort of PDF template available for folks to print out a copy, tape to their stock chassis and drill the holes themselves instead of having to buy a whole new chassis. That would make it easier for me to pull the trigger on a laydown conversion to experiment with.
I'd also be interested in learning about how many pro drivers are still running the stock transmission on a med-high bite smooth clay track?
I haven't made the conversion to the dirt laydown yet, but considering it... my biggest fear is messing up my setup because my car is already doing very well for me as is... I was talking to another local this weekend who didn't have any luck with turf laydown (not sure what it's called, the non-dirt laydown?) and his lap times got exponentially worse for him.
At the very least, it would be nice to have some sort of PDF template available for folks to print out a copy, tape to their stock chassis and drill the holes themselves instead of having to buy a whole new chassis. That would make it easier for me to pull the trigger on a laydown conversion to experiment with.
08-24-2016, 11:45 AM
#3404
I'd be interested in keeping the laydown discussion in this thread... I haven't been active in the thread for a while, but have been following along the banter and I appreciate it FWIW.
I'd also be interested in learning about how many pro drivers are still running the stock transmission on a med-high bite smooth clay track?
I haven't made the conversion to the dirt laydown yet, but considering it... my biggest fear is messing up my setup because my car is already doing very well for me as is... I was talking to another local this weekend who didn't have any luck with turf laydown (not sure what it's called, the non-dirt laydown?) and his lap times got exponentially worse for him.
At the very least, it would be nice to have some sort of PDF template available for folks to print out a copy, tape to their stock chassis and drill the holes themselves instead of having to buy a whole new chassis. That would make it easier for me to pull the trigger on a laydown conversion to experiment with.
I'd also be interested in learning about how many pro drivers are still running the stock transmission on a med-high bite smooth clay track?
I haven't made the conversion to the dirt laydown yet, but considering it... my biggest fear is messing up my setup because my car is already doing very well for me as is... I was talking to another local this weekend who didn't have any luck with turf laydown (not sure what it's called, the non-dirt laydown?) and his lap times got exponentially worse for him.
At the very least, it would be nice to have some sort of PDF template available for folks to print out a copy, tape to their stock chassis and drill the holes themselves instead of having to buy a whole new chassis. That would make it easier for me to pull the trigger on a laydown conversion to experiment with.
When I say 'you', that intended for whoever reads this, and not you Bill
