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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.

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Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root).

Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either.

I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'.

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Old 05-02-2016, 06:40 AM   #2716
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Hi everybody I'm picking up a 3.0 and was wondering what is good to do setup wise right out of the box for OCRC. For example I've seen the +1mm on rear axle and stuff like that I just wanted to know what stuff is a "requirement".... Thank you👍🏼
There is nothing needed out of the box this car is very adjustable and competitive, if your wanting to try someone else's setup, then you will have to look and see what they have
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Hi everybody I'm picking up a 3.0 and was wondering what is good to do setup wise right out of the box for OCRC. For example I've seen the +1mm on rear axle and stuff like that I just wanted to know what stuff is a "requirement".... Thank you👍🏼
Try this setup, it works well for me.

http://www.tlracing.com/ProdInfo/Fil...2016-01-24.pdf
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Try this setup, it works well for me.

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I got home last nite from a big race in Arkansas and have to admit these looked really good! JR Mitch totally dominated in 2wd and 4wd! But seriously he could've TQ'ed with a stinkin Traxxas bandit! That guy can wheel!
As for the stock body. I found myself wanting to ask several guys what body is that, then I remembered oh yeah thats the stock 22 3.0 body lol!
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I am starting my build but I am not seeing a chart for the servo spacers, Installing a Futaba BLS451 and wondering which one if any?
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I am starting my build but I am not seeing a chart for the servo spacers, Installing a Futaba BLS451 and wondering which one if any?
Pull up the 22 2.0 manual....It was mistakenly not included in the 3.0 manual. Or just test fit, you want the link to be perpendicular to the chassis.
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Pull up the 22 2.0 manual....It was mistakenly not included in the 3.0 manual. Or just test fit, you want the link to be perpendicular to the chassis.
will do thanks!
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I may have missed it, but the automated search didn't find an answer, so...

? Where are the TLR team drivers measuring the rear ride height on the 3.0...? On the 1.0 and 2.0, the original info was to measure to the bottom of the transmission, but with the 3.0 chassis step-up, etc. I realize I may be measuring my ride height wrong...?

? Are the published "stroke" lengths for shocks the actual measurement from the bottom of the shock body to the top of the shock end...?

Thanks in advance and sorry if this is a rehash...
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I may have missed it, but the automated search didn't find an answer, so...

? Where are the TLR team drivers measuring the rear ride height on the 3.0...? On the 1.0 and 2.0, the original info was to measure to the bottom of the transmission, but with the 3.0 chassis step-up, etc. I realize I may be measuring my ride height wrong...?

? Are the published "stroke" lengths for shocks the actual measurement from the bottom of the shock body to the top of the shock end...?

Thanks in advance and sorry if this is a rehash...
Measured on the flat part of the chassis front and rear.

Yes, top of the eyelet to the bottom of the shock cartridge.
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I have to say if people aren't satisfied with these shocks... Guess you can't please everybody! Just in comparison with my B5MFL and T5M I had to spend an additional $45 each (Ti-Nitride shock shafts and X-Ring rebuild kit) to get the shocks as smooth as these in stock form! TLR was very nice to include X-Rings out of the box and those shafts are nice and smooth too!
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Assocaited guys pick on me at my track because I run Losi.
I run Losi because I wanna run something different. I get tired of hearing about the SC5m, B5m, etc.
Tebo Runs Kyosho and nobody seems to care about that either.
I think i just have a bunch of idiots that race with me is all..
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Assocaited guys pick on me at my track because I run Losi.
I run Losi because I wanna run something different. I get tired of hearing about the SC5m, B5m, etc.
I have to admit I have run just about everything out there, mid 90's Losi (XXX-BK2 XXX-MF2, XXX-AD2, XXX-4G+, XX-4), Early 2000's Kyosho (RT5, SCR, RB5, RB5SP, RB5SP2), Mid 2000's AE (B4, T4, B4.2, B5, B5M, B5MFL), some TLR's even (a couple 22T's and a 22SCT), and even had a couple Durangos and others like JConcepts wheeler and Hot Bodies D4 thrown in for fun! That's quite a list not even including 1/8th scale or mini/micro... The last 2 or 3 years have been all AE, getting this buggy will be my testing option for the newer TLR gear but so far I am VERY impressed!

But seriously we're having fun, that's what counts right?
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But seriously we're having fun, that's what counts right?
I hope so. Im just getting alot of heat right now because I think im
going to be one of the few guys running the opposite brand.
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I hope so. Im just getting alot of heat right now because I think im
going to be one of the few guys running the opposite brand.
Some people just can't let other people have fun...
I'm pretty sure there's only 2 maybe 3 22 3.0's at my track... I sure don't care...
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After many weeks of racing (and crashing) I managed to break a shock tower last night. That was weird.

Some are reporting breaking the rear ballstud mount, I saw my first last night.

If your car is new and your shop stocks parts, don't worry about breakage. This thing is pretty tough.
Just a personal observation: Saturday night, I also managed to break my rear shock tower... I have been racing my 3.0 since it hit the track the first week of December - that is five (5) MONTHS of racing it every Saturday night - this is the first time anything on the car has broken...

FWIW: I have a suspicion that I know WHY the rear shock tower breaks where it does (every picture of a broken rear shock tower shows the last 3/4" of the right "ear" snapped off)... If the car flips and lands upside down with the rear end hitting first, the shock tower flexes just enough for it to hit the aluminum motor mount, and it snaps at that spot...
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