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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.

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Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root).

Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either.

I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'.

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Old 02-09-2016, 05:44 PM   #1966
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I've been running the two gear setup with 15k for over a month now and its perfect. I've got another guy that started using the same setup this last weekend and loved it.
Ok thanks, will try tomorrow
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I can put my Orion setup up if you have an Orion ESC?
I'd be interested to see how you've got your Orion ESC set up for stock racing.

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I'd be interested to see how you've got your Orion ESC set up for stock racing.

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Hi Mate - what's your email and location in Australia? I'll get you in touch with someone from our Australian team to help you get it sorted.



Glad it's getting right for you! Make sure to get those tires/foams sorted for next time, and it'll be even better!



I am actually running 32.5 front and 35 in the rear, as I did at Reedy Race, and is posted on my setup sheet



Most of the screws are M3.



2.4" = 60mm = 61mm = VTR = Evo....



Make sure to try the FULL setup when changing to one. For example, Maifield's setup doesn't use kit springs or pistons, like you are still running. Every part of the setup works in unison, when so changing only part of it, the rest may not be right and the balance could be poor.

I ran stock last week for a night, and ran my Reedy Race setup, only changing to a stiffer front spring (1 rate), and it was DIALED. I'd give that a shot, but remember to try all of it.
Why the stiffer spring up front in stock and did the heavier rear oil take out a little roll?
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Old 02-09-2016, 07:31 PM   #1970
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Default 22 Buggy Owners! I need measurements of your front springs!

I'm looking for shorter buggy springs to run on my Proline Pro-Spec SC shocks for my 2wd shortcourse. I'm looking to drop ride height further than currently possible with the same rate as my current setup, currently running 4lb/ft springs with 40 weight, two hole 1.4mm pistons and 2mm internal limiters. I'm working on my high bite smooth carpet indoor offroad setup. It's just about dialed but I need to internally limit my front shocks further and run shorter springs to lower ride height and limit traction rolling further.

I just ordered part #'s TLR5177 and TLR5176 being almost sure they will work but I just now started doubting they will be long enough and I've been searching rc tech and google for about an hour and can't find dimension specs for these springs.

I need them to be at least a bare minimum of 1 ⅝" to 2" or 40mm-50mm. Can someone that owns a 22 buggy measure their front springs for me?
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What's going on with the rear shock towers? No one has them.
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That's a tough one. It really goes by feel, and you won't always know when it's right, but you should know when it is wrong.

I can put my Orion setup up if you have an Orion ESC?



Sweet!
That would be great Frank, thanks
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That's why I love this forum!! Thanks Davidk!! That would help a ton, a little cheat sheet!! Ill see if I can dig one up.
I did a write up on Facebook a while back of my setup process. Check it out: https://m.facebook.com/groups/560084807384436?view=permalink&id=983235808402665

Complete with two cheat sheets to cross reference!
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What's going on with the rear shock towers? No one has them.
I've broke one already. People might be breaking them and the stock isn't catching up. I don't see a lot of people on here posting about breaking them, but this crowd is a very small percentage of racers out there.
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Can anyone please measure their front spring lengths for me? I bought a set for a different application and I'm not sure of their length.
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What's going on with the rear shock towers? No one has them.
I just ordered some from BeachRC.com earlier this week. They were in stock and shipped. I haven't broken mine, but I like having spare shock towers front and rear.
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So I'm sure others are having trouble trying to find indoor clay tires in stock anywhere. I've got gold dirt webs on backorder, but I don't know if they'll get here by March. I've been running carpet, but have a clay event coming up.

So I can get some Proline Electrons... But right now it's going to be 2.4" wheel/tire in the rear and 2.2" in the front. Is that going to be a problem? I believe the outside diameter should be the same after mounting the tires, but I don't know if the feel of the buggy is going to be unbalanced. Should I try to get 2.4" for the front as well? Typically I run 2.2", but I can't find Electrons or Dirt Webs in 2.2" rear in stock anywhere.
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So I'm sure others are having trouble trying to find indoor clay tires in stock anywhere. I've got gold dirt webs on backorder, but I don't know if they'll get here by March. I've been running carpet, but have a clay event coming up.

So I can get some Proline Electrons... But right now it's going to be 2.4" wheel/tire in the rear and 2.2" in the front. Is that going to be a problem? I believe the outside diameter should be the same after mounting the tires, but I don't know if the feel of the buggy is going to be unbalanced. Should I try to get 2.4" for the front as well? Typically I run 2.2", but I can't find Electrons or Dirt Webs in 2.2" rear in stock anywhere.
What about JC Bar Flys? I run them when my clay indoor track is too dry for slicks.
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What about JC Bar Flys? I run them when my clay indoor track is too dry for slicks.
Dirt Webs, Ions, and Electrons are the go-to around here. Or so I'm told.

Basically, I just wonder if 2.4" rear and 2.2" up front will be really unstable or if it won't be that big of a deal.
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