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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.

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Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root).

Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either.

I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'.

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Something I made, pretty basic. Just to give people an idea.

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Old 01-26-2016, 02:42 PM   #1771
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Frank, will this: TLR234036 work with the 22 3.0? I hate those stupid set screws..
It should, but I'll admit I haven't not tried or test fit them.
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Clint, thanks for all the info Sunday on your 3.0 experiences. One question I have for the group...still in learning mode.

When I read the setup sheets I'm getting a bit confused. For example, where details are noted for the "Camber Link", I see different setups and I don't know how to interpret the information. On Clint's setup I see "1A" - on the stock setup it's "2-A".

I think the numerical definition ("1", "2") refers to the position on the front or rear hub and the alphabetical definition ("A", "B") refer to the front or rear camber block. Is this accurate?
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better answer below..
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Frank, will this: TLR234036 work with the 22 3.0? I hate those stupid set screws..
They fit on the 2.0 as they did not change the bulkhead I would have to assume it will work with the 3.0
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Clint, thanks for all the info Sunday on your 3.0 experiences. One question I have for the group...still in learning mode.

When I read the setup sheets I'm getting a bit confused. For example, where details are noted for the "Camber Link", I see different setups and I don't know how to interpret the information. On Clint's setup I see "1A" - on the stock setup it's "2-A".

I think the numerical definition ("1", "2") refers to the position on the front or rear hub and the alphabetical definition ("A", "B") refer to the front or rear camber block. Is this accurate?
Inside (camber blocks or shock towers) are numerical, with the lowest number starting closer to the center line of the chassis and counting up as they move away from the center line of the chassis.

Outside (caster block, hub) are alphabetical, starting with A closer to the center line of the chassis and progressing up (B,C,D, etc) as they move away from the center line of the chassis.

And, all of the locations are visually labelled on the setup sheets posted online and included within the vehicle manuals.
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Frank, will this: TLR234036 work with the 22 3.0? I hate those stupid set screws..
You would have to drill the casters because the holes in the arms are bigger then the holes in the casters
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Clint, thanks for all the info Sunday on your 3.0 experiences. One question I have for the group...still in learning mode.

When I read the setup sheets I'm getting a bit confused. For example, where details are noted for the "Camber Link", I see different setups and I don't know how to interpret the information. On Clint's setup I see "1A" - on the stock setup it's "2-A".

I think the numerical definition ("1", "2") refers to the position on the front or rear hub and the alphabetical definition ("A", "B") refer to the front or rear camber block. Is this accurate?
Frank beat me to it. I plan on making it out there sometime soon. That place has the best traction in Norcal. The 3.0 was so hooked up Sunday.
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You would have to drill the casters because the holes in the arms are bigger then the holes in the casters
Its for the hinge pins not the caster blocks.
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They fit on the 2.0 as they did not change the bulkhead I would have to assume it will work with the 3.0
Thanks Casper! Going to have to pull one off my 22-4 and double check before pulling the trigger maybe.
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Frank Any idea on when the Alum Servo mounts will be out?
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Frank Any idea on when the Alum Servo mounts will be out?
No precise date, we just received those first samples.
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Its for the hinge pins not the caster blocks.
They work, I've been running then on my 3.0!
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Exotek has servo mounts on their site now if you need some quickly.
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Is anyone having this weird issue where the inside tire is lifting while taking really tight switchback or 180 degree turns? I cannot for the life of me tune this out.
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They work, I've been running then on my 3.0!
I'm using them as well . . . .
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