26LikesTLR 22 3.0 Race Kit Thread!
08-23-2016, 10:37 AM - Wikipost
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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.
Franks response: Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root). Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either. I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'. K.King Something I made, pretty basic. Just to give people an idea. 
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07-28-2016, 12:23 AM
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Tech Adept
07-28-2016, 12:25 AM
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Tech Adept
07-28-2016, 07:33 AM
#3279
Yeah the car plus the laydown conversion is pricey for sure. But now they have the dirt conversion laydown so that's another 80 bucks on top of the car and conversion. I did go ahead and get all of it. Why because I like the 3.0. Haven't ran it yet in laydown. I also bought a b6d with the laydown conversion. I'm gonna test them back to back this weekend. But I will say the 3.0 to me anyways is higher quality car. I'm sure tlr will listen and offer a chassis that fits every configuration. I guess my biggest complaint is the cost of the dirt laydown price. 80 bucks seems high for a motor plate and a gear box
So, no aluminum ones yet...
07-28-2016, 10:17 PM
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i bought 2 3.0s at $330 a piece 4 months ago. now they come out with the laydown kit for another $200 making the kit $530 befor puting in electronics. Associated kit is $309 and you can change the transmissions out very cheap. Why couldnt losi make the laydown transmission work on the kit chassis? Time to go back to associatedWhile I understand that the conversion is pricey, the amount you DO get in it is pretty substantial. In my non-engineering opinion, having a chassis made for one purpose is better than one made for multiple. You have to give something up there from a design and structure standpoint. You get aluminum hubs that are designed with a same height offset diff to make sure the roll centers are correct. You get a brass weight, a body, aluminum idler, 2 front wings and all hardware to make it happen.
Yes it is expensive, but in my opinion, it is the proper way to go towards a car geared for laydown friendly surfaces.
