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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.

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Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root).

Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either.

I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'.

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Old 01-08-2016, 06:16 PM   #1471
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No real reason just that the wing takes a lot of abuse and they break a lot so most everybody just scuffs them with a scotch bright pad because they get replaced a lot
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Old 01-08-2016, 06:37 PM   #1472
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For all you suspension Gurus out there, how do springs effect a front end push?
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I know this isn't 22 3.0 specific but when building the shocks there are two O rings which, according to the manual share the same part No. One to seal to lower cap to the body & a larger one to seal the top cap to the body.

The larger one is a real stretch to get over the thread compared to the smaller one for the lower cap, is this normal ? There are no other O rings except for the pre-load collar so I guess it must be right...

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Old 01-09-2016, 02:35 AM   #1477
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this is a stupid question, and not specific to this buggy, but how come the wing is clear? i see it on a lot of buggies where the wing is unpainted. Is there a reason for this?

It is made of the same material as the body, polycarbonate is naturally clear. As for why people leave it clear, I guess its because its going to get banged up anyway so why bother painting it.
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I know this isn't 22 3.0 specific but when building the shocks there are two O rings which, according to the manual share the same part No. One to seal to lower cap to the body & a larger one to seal the top cap to the body.

The larger one is a real stretch to get over the thread compared to the smaller one for the lower cap, is this normal ? There are no other O rings except for the pre-load collar so I guess it must be right...

Many thanks.

It's fine, it's s little tight but once u get it over fits great.
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For all you suspension Gurus out there, how do springs effect a front end push?
If your front spring is too stiff compared to the rear spring you'll get push.
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Old 01-09-2016, 08:24 AM   #1480
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Looking at getting a new ride for 17.5 . Have you guys had any other problems besides the rear ball stud mount breaking that would turn you away from getting this car ? Thanks in advance .
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Looking at getting a new ride for 17.5 . Have you guys had any other problems besides the rear ball stud mount breaking that would turn you away from getting this car ? Thanks in advance .
I don't even know if this has happened enough times to be considered a "problem". Durability is absolutely not a concern at this point.

If anything, I think we'd like the rear stud mount redesigned to provide more adjustment downward. Most are running their ball studs in the lowest position available.
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Looking at getting a new ride for 17.5 . Have you guys had any other problems besides the rear ball stud mount breaking that would turn you away from getting this car ? Thanks in advance .
I've been through some cringe worthy crashes and I have yet to break anything on my car.
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For all you suspension Gurus out there, how do springs effect a front end push?
This depends on whether you're on or off power. Off power push has front springs that are too hard not allowing proper weight shift to the front. On power push has rear springs that are too soft transferring weight rearward.

If you want more entry steerin, off power, adjust the front of the car. If you want more exit steering, on power, adjust the rear.
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Because there's not enough pictures of the same buggy.
LRP Works Team esc, aluminum front hex's, 5mm carbon front shock tower, 0 degree caster blocks, gear diff, titanium shock mounts and a LRP 20.5 mod motor. Going to go to a 7.5 soon. Electronics are mounted to I can use any battery configuration plus I run on carpet.




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Does the b5/rb6 front wheels fit this car I'm wanting to run the green DE speed line wheels but don't know what front wheels I can use if any.
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