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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.

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Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root).

Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either.

I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'.

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Old 01-07-2016, 01:16 PM   #1441
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picking up my 2nd 3.0, this one for stock. Frank any chance of TLR coming out with their own titanium screw kit. Don't feel like spending $90 on a lunsford kit.
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picking up my 2nd 3.0, this one for stock. Frank any chance of TLR coming out with their own titanium screw kit. Don't feel like spending $90 on a lunsford kit.
We used to offer them and didn't sell enough to keep them around
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the 22-4 turnbuckles the same as the 22 3.0 minus that long servo link piece?
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the 22-4 turnbuckles the same as the 22 3.0 minus that long servo link piece?
The 22 2.0 titanium turnbuckles are the same as the 3.0, but the 22-4's just just a little different (4 x 50, 2 x55 vs. 2 x50, 4 x 55).
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The 22 2.0 titanium turnbuckles are the same as the 3.0, but the 22-4's just just a little different (4 x 50, 2 x55 vs. 2 x50, 4 x 55).
ahh ok but I guess if someone was on a budget they could make the 22-4's work on the 3.0
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i just ordered the kit, but i wanted to have everything ready for when it arrives.

Looking at the manual online, it looks like a 78t spur is the one that is included in the kit. Is this the only spur included.

it looks like the 70t spur is what should be used for 17.5, but the slipper pads included do not fit a 17.5. Is this accurate that i would need to get the older style slipper pads to use a 17.5?

will the gear diff from the 2.0 fit this kit?

is there any tires that anyone would recommend for this kit for driving in the street? or any buggy tires would be fine?

i have never run a buggy before, so i honestly am a real beginner when it comes to this. sorry if the questions are dumb
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"Looking at the manual online, it looks like a 78t spur is the one that is included in the kit. Is this the only spur included."

Yes, 78t is the only gear in the kit.

"it looks like the 70t spur is what should be used for 17.5, but the slipper pads included do not fit a 17.5. Is this accurate that i would need to get the older style slipper pads to use a 17.5?"


Yes, you need the older slipper pads for the 70t spur.

"will the gear diff from the 2.0 fit this kit?"


From what I've read here, yes.
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would this spur gear fit?
http://www.amainhobbies.com/rc-cars-...53817?v=413826

if yes, would it be able to use the slipper that comes with the kit? If yes, would it be a 30t pinion do you think?
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picking up my 2nd 3.0, this one for stock. Frank any chance of TLR coming out with their own titanium screw kit. Don't feel like spending $90 on a lunsford kit.
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would this spur gear fit?
http://www.amainhobbies.com/rc-cars-...53817?v=413826

if yes, would it be able to use the slipper that comes with the kit? If yes, would it be a 30t pinion do you think?
You'll need associated slipper pads to work with that spur but otherwise yes, it'll work.
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You'll need associated slipper pads to work with that spur but otherwise yes, it'll work.
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Building my 2nd kit tonight for stock, jaunt finished with bag b, must say the build is coming together smoother then the 1st one which was a day 1 release.
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As long as you keep both wheels on the ground all the time that would be fine but that is a really loose diff. Not saying it is wrong but supersized to hear you like it that light with a 2 gear setup.

With a 4 gear setup I would be in the 7K range.
Our jumps are not huge so I run pretty low and flat. My setup doesn't let the inside tire lift and loose traction.
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thank you, i ended up ordering
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Yes but make sure you order 2 of the slipper pads. Only 1 comes in the packet.
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