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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.

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Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root).

Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either.

I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'.

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Old 11-05-2015, 12:54 PM   #46
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JC Johnson has a 22 3.0 and will be at Tacoma RC on Monday and Tuesday running so you can check it out
I might have to head down there and bug him about it XD
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AUsome new buggy and it looks fast. It looks like it has some Ryan style to it as well. Ordered mine.

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Old 11-05-2015, 01:00 PM   #48
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That new 3.0 body is SuperSweet, frank and the gang
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Car looks awesome. Was planning to buy a B5M lite for Christmas, looks like I'll have to come up with a new list for Santa.

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Old 11-05-2015, 01:11 PM   #50
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Nice job guys very nice and innovative.
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Tacoma RCR Points Series starts this Saturday night. Will JC be driving the 3.0 for the points series?
He will not be.

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Did you have the guys run the 2.0 and 3.0 back to back to compare lap times?

Ya know.. for science..
2-3 tenths at least, depends on the track. At 5 minutes, it's quite a bit more due to drivers making less errors since it is easier to drive.

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If you can't beat'em join them, lol
Pretty sure we have won our share of races over the 'other' car with the 22 2.0....
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Thinking ahead, at least in the short term. Looks like you will be able to run either the new style front wheels or the old style front wheels on either the 2.0 or 3.0? Just have to get the same axle for both.

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I agree, the 3.0 body looks excellent. I was thinking with a transverse battery it would widen it like a tugboat. But it's very sleek like the 2.0 cab forward.

Is the fin a separate part that needs to be attached?
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I agree, the 3.0 body looks excellent. I was thinking with a transverse battery it would widen it like a tugboat. But it's very sleek like the 2.0 cab forward.

Is the fin a separate part that needs to be attached?
http://www.tlracing.com/Products/Def...odID=TLR330004
It says in the video it's a separate part.
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It says in the video it's a separate part.
Thank you. I haven't been able to watch the video yet, I will tonight after work.
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Thinking ahead, at least in the short term. Looks like you will be able to run either the new style front wheels or the old style front wheels on either the 2.0 or 3.0? Just have to get the same axle for both.

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The new 12mm hex wheel will fit the new axle. The current/old 10mm wheel will fit the current/old 10mm axle. The 10mm and 12mm axles are interchangeable without issues.

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I agree, the 3.0 body looks excellent. I was thinking with a transverse battery it would widen it like a tugboat. But it's very sleek like the 2.0 cab forward.

Is the fin a separate part that needs to be attached?
http://www.tlracing.com/Products/Def...odID=TLR330004
Yes, you can mount with thin double sided tape, or 4 screws/nuts we provide in the kit.
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Rears are ok but the fronts cant, the losi wheels have an offset to keep the car within legal width, the ae wheels dont have that
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Will a 1.0 or 2.0 body fit the new car?
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Neither, the new chassis is wider than the old cars
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