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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.

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Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root).

Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either.

I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'.

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Old 11-16-2016, 10:21 AM   #3751
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If you're only going to race stock, I would get the sr kit.
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With the laydown kit, I see people using the stock hubs and not the +3mm hubs that come with the laydown kit. why is this?
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Old 11-16-2016, 01:01 PM   #3753
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they are probably running the dirt lay down transmissions you only run the +3 hubs with the +3.5 transmission
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Old 11-16-2016, 03:29 PM   #3754
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Default 22 3.0 shock collar O-rings

Can someone tell me if I can buy the O-Rings without buying the collars to. Or what size they
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Old 11-16-2016, 06:16 PM   #3755
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so is the dirt laydown tranny a separate purchase?
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so is the dirt laydown tranny a separate purchase?
Have you seen the track remodel at PBR yet Mason?

Official PBR Hobbies thread and schedule
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Old 11-16-2016, 09:26 PM   #3757
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I can't get my 3.0 to lower. I run on carpet with small jumps, and I traction roll real bad. My ride hight is about 24 and I can't get it to lower. I'm running 35wt and 30 oil in the rear, shock collars all the way up, red spring front and rear. Shock built dead. I put a large square pack in and it lowered some but not enough. Another local racer has his lower than mine and I showed him. He can't figure it out either. Help
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Have you seen the track remodel at PBR yet Mason?

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Yeah I saw that Jason...looks awesome. good thing there is a carpet track and turf track near me, so I've got a decent idea what setup to run, when I come back to Oregon again to visit........
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Also do when know when X-Factory is releasing their rear shock tower, so we can run the shocks to the front on the rear tower?
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When you folks are running short VLA, do you put your screws in the spindle carrier to the inside hole, like the manual suggests, or to the outside hole?

I was looking at the photos of the new 22 SCT 3.0 and in the photos it is running short VLA but the screw going into the spindle carrier is on the outside, not the inside.
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Also do when know when X-Factory is releasing their rear shock tower, so we can run the shocks to the front on the rear tower?
Its already out. You can order it from the xfactory website
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Just an FYI since the new SCT 3.0 is out we have some new goodies that will fit on our car!

http://www.tlracing.com/Products/Def...odID=TLR234078
http://www.tlracing.com/Products/Def...odID=TLR234075
http://www.tlracing.com/Products/Def...odID=TLR234074
http://www.tlracing.com/Products/Def...odID=TLR232066
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Just an FYI since the new SCT 3.0 is out we have some new goodies that will fit on our car!

http://www.tlracing.com/Products/Def...odID=TLR234074
Wait a minute... those look like they've got trailing inserts (ala AE B5/B5M).
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so being that this will be my first actual racing kit buggy, should I just save money and go for the 22 3.0 vs the Spec-R? Since I am new to racing, im not sure the weight savings would give me that much of an advantage because im still trying to learn how to drive fast! LOL
SR. It doesn't make a whole bunch of sense for current 3.0 owners to switch, but for a newcomer, it's only a $30 difference. You'll likely race in stock 17.5 to start if you're new to racing, and it'll cost at least 3x that amount to get the older 3.0 drivetrain to match the SR. Might as well invest in a "modded" car so you won't have any excuses, and then focus on driving.
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