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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.

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Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root).

Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either.

I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'.

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Old 11-03-2016, 12:04 PM   #3721
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Frank Root did a live video on Facebook earlier. Full details on the car and projected pricing info. https://www.facebook.com/16771357659...1211338577567/
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projected price? can anyone speculate?
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Old 11-03-2016, 01:47 PM   #3723
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How much would all the light wieght bits cost off the new car to put into the original?
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How much would all the light wieght bits cost off the new car to put into the original?
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I was curious too... based on what I gather it's roughly $240:

$22 Direct Drive System (SR)
$25 Ultra Lightweight Body (SR)
$12 Front Aluminum Axles (SR)
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Will the laydown dirt trans bolt up to the light weight chassis?
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Will the laydown dirt trans bolt up to the light weight chassis?
Based on the picture it will not. As is does not have the required holes
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A main has them listed at $330..back ordered
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Mostly like a no to this question but can you buy the battery brass weight that is in the laydown kit separately?

Also do the ally rear hubs (TLR334014) weigh more than the plastic kit hub?

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Why does it not have a Laydown?
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Why does it not have a Laydown?
Laydown is for very high grip. The stand up transmission works just about everywhere.
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Mostly like a no to this question but can you buy the battery brass weight that is in the laydown kit separately?

Also do the ally rear hubs (TLR334014) weigh more than the plastic kit hub?

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No you can not buy the weight separate and yes the aluminum hubs are going to weigh more
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Have the exotek laydown installed, and stock body is super tight fit, hitting/resting on the trans itself. What body is fitting best with exotek laydown?
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Frank Root: Can you order the new stock spec lightened outdrives separately?
You'll need the aluminum diff hubs, molded outdrives and the driveshaft bones, all together.

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$329.99, sames as the original price of the 22 3.0.
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Have the exotek laydown installed, and stock body is super tight fit, hitting/resting on the trans itself. What body is fitting best with exotek laydown?
Jconcepts s2 body fits nice
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Frank, thanks as always for the quick response (great factory support)!

Has anyone tried running the rear shocks in the front of the tower, for instance with the X-factory tower? I notice the rb6.6 and AE b6d users are doing this for clay.

I'd like to give this a try on the 22 3.0, but would like to know what it would do and if anyone has any experience doing this.

I had tried it way back when on my dex210 (v1) and found the car rotated slightly better. (Don't get me started on this car).

No idea if that would carry over here though.
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