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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.

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Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root).

Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either.

I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'.

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Old 10-27-2016, 12:32 PM   #3691
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Actually they worked great there last year to be honest. I just think it is more the dusty level causing me issues. I through on a set at the last minute of another tread pattern but was so far out to lunch it really didn't matter what I did to try and make it better. The pressure points I am running are the black compound. I usually have more traction than others. The back end just kept wanting to swing around on me on a sweeper corner. Then when I hit the slow section to make smoother turn it just seemed like it didn't want to turn.
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Actually they worked great there last year to be honest. I just think it is more the dusty level causing me issues. I through on a set at the last minute of another tread pattern but was so far out to lunch it really didn't matter what I did to try and make it better. The pressure points I am running are the black compound. I usually have more traction than others. The back end just kept wanting to swing around on me on a sweeper corner. Then when I hit the slow section to make smoother turn it just seemed like it didn't want to turn.
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I run on a clay track as well. Last year I was liking Dirt Webs in Silver compound (SS Clay), or an MC Electron with some height knocked down off the tread. This year I tried the Pro-Line Micron in MC compound. . . WOW . . . sooo good , even when there is a bit of dust on the track. Like Frank said, you want a low pin height tire. I've also had good traction with JConcepts Gold compound BarFlys on my 22-4 2.0, but haven't tried them on my 3.0 yet.
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I will look into that. Thanks again fellas
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Sorry guys if i ask really stupid questions but what wheels are compatible with the 22-4 2.0? Thank you!!
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Well I got a 3.0 last week and got on the track today(OCRC). Box stock setup with a 7.5, took it out..HOLY CRAP!! this is the best 2wd I have ever had. The only thing I did was move the battery back about 5mm and it was dialed. I'm amazed how just moving the battery changes the way the car drives, I also later in the day changed to white associated front spring and associated green rears and that pretty much made the car perfect. I have to say I was sceptacle about getting another 2wd, but everyone said just get it...glad I did. I think I may put on a metal front camber block on when I break the plastic one.

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Old 10-28-2016, 06:15 AM   #3696
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Sorry guys if i ask really stupid questions but what wheels are compatible with the 22-4 2.0? Thank you!!
Rears are the same between the 22-4 1.0/2.0 and the 22 1.0/2.0/3.0. Fronts are different.
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What are my options for gear diffs for the 3.0???
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Old 10-28-2016, 07:11 PM   #3698
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What are my options for gear diffs for the 3.0???

- Losi gear diff. (Requires some shimming)
- serpent gear diff (requires some shining) "srx2 or 4"
- TSR "pro built" gear diff

If using the Losi gear diff I recommend trying the vision racing gear diff cover. This will eliminate having to shim.

Also people have good success stopping the Losi gear diff leaking using kyosho o-rings. Not sure which ones. I'm sure some one will clarify.
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I think the Kyoyosho o-rings are "P-5"

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Who makes a 2.4 wheel with 12mm hex that fits the 3.0? I know most companies have switched back to 2.2's
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Who makes a 2.4 wheel with 12mm hex that fits the 3.0? I know most companies have switched back to 2.2's
AKA and JConcepts both make 2.4 wheel
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True but not for the 3.0. Even though the JC pack I bought last week had 12mm hex on the bag, they were 10mm from the 1.0 and 2.0
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Who makes a 2.4 wheel with 12mm hex that fits the 3.0? I know most companies have switched back to 2.2's
TLR does, of course

http://www.tlracing.com/Search/Defau...hTerm=TLR+61mm
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I would consider updating the search engine to return 61mm wheels for folks searching for 2.4", where the following search doesn't return any results:

http://www.tlracing.com/Search/Defau...erm=TLR+2.4%22
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I would consider updating the search engine to return 61mm wheels for folks searching for 2.4", where the following search doesn't return any results:

http://www.tlracing.com/Search/Defau...erm=TLR+2.4%22
2.4" isn't an industry standard for the wheel size. If you search 2.4 yellow on AMain, none of the JC tires or wheels come up either, they are 60mm.

The TLR wheels are also listed in the manual and the web page under option parts.
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