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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.

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Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root).

Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either.

I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'.

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Old 09-10-2016, 10:29 PM   #3481
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Has anyone tried the new brass front hinge pin block that TLR offers for the standard 3 gear tranny car?

http://www.tlracing.com/Products/Def...odID=TLR334035
I have the exotek, not the TLR part, but it was the single best change I made to get it driveable for me, a low-level guy, in medium to loose dirt outdoors. I haven't seemed to mind the extra weight indoors in stock buggy either. Brass up front and in back helps me be more consistent for now, until I ever get better, smoother and more in tune with my car.
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DE makes some. The 22-4 front wheel fits on the 22 12mm front axel. I have been running it for a while now and work great.

Come in a variety of colors as well

http://www.deracing.net/store/index....&category_id=0
Casper, do you use the 2 wheel or 4 wheel rubber front tires on the 22-4 front wheels to your 22 3.0 buggy?
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Casper, do you use the 2 wheel or 4 wheel rubber front tires on the 22-4 front wheels to your 22 3.0 buggy?
I put 2wd tires on it for my 22 3.0 buggy

If you compare 2wd to 4wd wheels you will see they are VERY close in width bead to bead from TLR. We have been "stretching" 2wd tires on wider wheels for many, many years.
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Thanks Casper! I will have to try this (22-4 wheels with standard buggy front tires).

I did try simply putting the actual 22-4 front tires on my 22 3.0 and they tamed steering down. I guess this may not be legal to race with.
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Looking for pics of fan setups when running 17.5

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Are you running laydown or standup? If running laydown the most common fan setup will be putting a fan behind the motor double sided taped to the chassis. If running a stand up car I'd suggest the waterfall from Mo Performance Parts on Shapeways.

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Are you running laydown or standup? If running laydown the most common fan setup will be putting a fan behind the motor double sided taped to the chassis. If running a stand up car I'd suggest the waterfall from Mo Performance Parts on Shapeways.

http://www.shapeways.com/product/D9U...-fan-brace-low
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Thanks Casper! I will have to try this (22-4 wheels with standard buggy front tires).

I did try simply putting the actual 22-4 front tires on my 22 3.0 and they tamed steering down. I guess this may not be legal to race with.
I run front 22-4 wheels and holeshots 4wd tires at our outdoor track and they are great, i had to turn down the epa a little from one side so it does not rub at the arm, like 5-10 points of epa.

From what i could find the only rule is 250mm total width of the car...i have not measure my car yet...
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Casper, do you use the 2 wheel or 4 wheel rubber front tires on the 22-4 front wheels to your 22 3.0 buggy?
I have seen an "upper tier" sponsored driver running 4wd fronts on his 22 3.0. May have just been an experiment but he was HOOKED up!
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Sorry if this had been covered and I'm sure it was cause I have read somewhere that when using the alloy servo mount some people are mounting the servo to the back of the mount. Why is this done? What does it achieve? And what else needs to be changed to get it to steer properly. Thanks for any answers.
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Sorry if this had been covered and I'm sure it was cause I have read somewhere that when using the alloy servo mount some people are mounting the servo to the back of the mount. Why is this done? What does it achieve? And what else needs to be changed to get it to steer properly. Thanks for any answers.
It moves weight in the car back. You have to cut a little of the mud guard to clear the servo mounting tabs, and clearance the front bulkhead for the servo arm to clear.
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This was with the 2.0 however I'm sure with some 3D printing prowess one could be made for the 3.0 with ease

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This is off my 22T 2.0 but I did the exact same thing on my 22 3.0

Hollowed out the waterfall, placed a couple spacers under the fan against the waterfall for clearance. Then, since the body is so close to the backside of the fan, I reamed a honeycomb pattern of holes out to help draw air through the fan.
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Thanks Frank. But do u need to put the steering ball stud into the front of the servo arm as well to make the link straight still?

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It moves weight in the car back. You have to cut a little of the mud guard to clear the servo mounting tabs, and clearance the front bulkhead for the servo arm to clear.

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Thanks Frank. But do u need to put the steering ball stud into the front of the servo arm as well to make the link straight still?
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