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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.

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Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root).

Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either.

I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'.

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Old 06-30-2016, 01:14 PM   #3136
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https://www.amainhobbies.com/team-lo...332057/p501302

I am confused with this part, maybe someone can explain it correctly. Is this used as an option part for the 3 gear tranny that comes standard with the 22 3.0?

Thank you in advance for any help
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I am confused with this part, maybe someone can explain it correctly. Is this used as an option part for the 3 gear tranny that comes standard with the 22 3.0?

Thank you in advance for any help
That idler is for the 22/22T 2.0 3 gear transmission, not for the 3.0.
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I am confused with this part, maybe someone can explain it correctly. Is this used as an option part for the 3 gear tranny that comes standard with the 22 3.0?

Thank you in advance for any help
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Hi Guys,

Just wondering how everyone is finding the hardware on the 3.0, namely the screws and stock turnbuckles.

I have had the first TLR 22, the 2.0, stadium truck 22 and 22.0 and the two SCT versions. I don'r run my cars in water and they are always kept dry and clean all in the same place.

I have notcied nearly all my screws and 3 of the 4 turnbuckles developing a great amount of corrosion on them, and this kit has seen the least use of all my kits so far.

It's disappointing as this 3.0 was priced a great deal higher than previous versions and it seems there may have been some costing cutting on quality also.

What have the rest of you guys noticed? maybe it is just my kit???
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Hi Guys,

Just wondering how everyone is finding the hardware on the 3.0, namely the screws and stock turnbuckles.

I have had the first TLR 22, the 2.0, stadium truck 22 and 22.0 and the two SCT versions. I don'r run my cars in water and they are always kept dry and clean all in the same place.

I have notcied nearly all my screws and 3 of the 4 turnbuckles developing a great amount of corrosion on them, and this kit has seen the least use of all my kits so far.

It's disappointing as this 3.0 was priced a great deal higher than previous versions and it seems there may have been some costing cutting on quality also.

What have the rest of you guys noticed? maybe it is just my kit???
What do you clean your car with.

Cleaners such as simple green are very corrosive and eat away at the plating on screws, bolts and turnbuckles even if cleaned of properly.

My turnbuckles on my losi's normally do start to show some signs of corrosion after 12 months. Would love to see Ti turnbuckles as standard one day.
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I do use simple green sometimes and dry with compressed air. Have done for most of my kits. Will steer clear of simple green in future.
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I do use simple green sometimes and dry with compressed air. Have done for most of my kits. Will steer clear of simple green in future.
I have a really simple cleaning routine: blow loose debris off with a compressor, then clean with a paint brush and WD-40. Just spray a little WD-40 on the brush and go to it. It will pick up virtually all the dirt and leave your plastics black. The brush will fray pretty quickly, but if you get a black bristle brush from Purdy it will last much longer. In fact, I've used the same 1" brush for a year now (granted, I don't race every weekend.)

I got that method from the Short Course World YouTube channel. Ty Tessman's dad gave him the tip about using a black bristle brush instead of a regular cheap paint brush.
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Considering turning my 2.0 into a "2.5 Laydown". I am going to buy the laydown kit.

I already have the bellcranks and don't care about VLA so I can use all the same front parts except servo mounts I think...

What other parts do I need for the rear?

I already have a normal 3.0 but I think I am going to keep that as my dirt car.
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Considering turning my 2.0 into a "2.5 Laydown". I am going to buy the laydown kit.

I already have the bellcranks and don't care about VLA so I can use all the same front parts except servo mounts I think...

What other parts do I need for the rear?

I already have a normal 3.0 but I think I am going to keep that as my dirt car.
Off the top of my head you would need.

rear arm holders and inserts
rear arms
rear camberblock
rear shock tower
rear wing mounts
waterfall brace
battery hold down posts
chassis side guards
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Off the top of my head you would need.

rear arm holders and inserts
rear arms
rear camberblock
rear shock tower
rear wing mounts
waterfall brace
battery hold down posts
chassis side guards
servo mounts
And 67mm driveshaft bones.
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Hello, does TLR will offer a harder front spring set? Something like a green to black in low frequency?
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Sure I may have missed it but did MIP make a stock setup diff and axels ?? Part #??thanks
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Does anyone have a good setup for a hard pack dirt outdoor track it's medium to low traction. I was thinking of trying this. I will be running 17.5, non laydoen. Any thoughtshttp://site.petitrc.com/setup/losi/s...ldura20160612/
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Old 07-03-2016, 08:44 AM   #3150
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Anyone know why the laydown conversion prices have went up on ebay and seem to be out of stock everywhere?
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