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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.

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Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root).

Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either.

I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'.

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Old 05-27-2016, 07:19 AM   #2956
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Frank, I'm wondering if I can run your stock nats set up with the exotek lay down conversion or is it completely different geometry than the tlr one? and if so whats a good set up for the exotek lay down transmission? I run at ocrc and coyote hobbies...any help would be appreciated, thank you.
Im running Frank's laydown setup with the exotek, works great. I just made some minor changes to account for personal driving style.
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Not a new conversion. It is a optional transmissiom case that does not have the diff raised. Allows you to run a higher ride height with the correct geometry. for lower traction surfaces and should allow the car to land better due to the extra travel of the suspension
Lol ya. What I said. A conversion for the conversion.
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Im running Frank's laydown setup with the exotek, works great. I just made some minor changes to account for personal driving style.
Are you running the stock plastic rear hubs? Because I believe the aluminum ones that come in the tlr lay down are a different degree. Are you also running his different front end with the kick up shim grinded and modified?
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Frank, I'm wondering if I can run your stock nats set up with the exotek lay down conversion or is it completely different geometry than the tlr one? and if so whats a good set up for the exotek lay down transmission? I run at ocrc and coyote hobbies...any help would be appreciated, thank you.
The Exotek geometry is definitely different, I am just not sure how, so it's hard to me to suggest a setup.

I did see someone comment that they are running close to my setup with Exotek, so maybe that will go ok.

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Not a new conversion. It is a optional transmissiom case that does not have the diff raised. Allows you to run a higher ride height with the correct geometry. for lower traction surfaces and should allow the car to land better due to the extra travel of the suspension
What he said
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Not a new conversion. It is a optional transmissiom case that does not have the diff raised. Allows you to run a higher ride height with the correct geometry. for lower traction surfaces and should allow the car to land better due to the extra travel of the suspension
Can someone post a pic/link? (whatever forum rules allow?) Is it for sale, or still in the testing/prototype phase?
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Can someone post a pic/link? (whatever forum rules allow?) Is it for sale, or still in the testing/prototype phase?
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I mentioned in the TLR FB Live yesterday, it is not yet "officially" released, so you can't see a link or anything.

More info will be available next week once the part is officially released.
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I mentioned in the TLR FB Live yesterday, it is not yet "officially" released, so you can't see a link or anything.

More info will be available next week once the part is officially released.
Frank, the FB Live idea is way cool - no one supports their product and racers like you do - Thank you!
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I mentioned in the TLR FB Live yesterday, it is not yet "officially" released, so you can't see a link or anything.

More info will be available next week once the part is officially released.
Got it. Thanks Frank. Haven't had time to watch the video yet. I do remember you mentioned it to someone in a separate post a page or two back as well.

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I mentioned in the TLR FB Live yesterday, it is not yet "officially" released, so you can't see a link or anything.

More info will be available next week once the part is officially released.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ge-_-TLR332063

Do we use reg 22 3.0 rear hubs with this tranny? I just ordered the tranny want to make sure i have the correct hubs…….. And do the reg alum 22 hubs work also?
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http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ge-_-TLR332063

Do we use reg 22 3.0 rear hubs with this tranny? I just ordered the tranny want to make sure i have the correct hubs…….. And do the reg alum 22 hubs work also?
is this just the case or a new kit with all the parts
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is this just the case or a new kit with all the parts
Case and motor plate
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I'm assuming machined delrin? Why not molded?
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Time.... It would be another 4-5 months if molded.
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Are you running the stock plastic rear hubs? Because I believe the aluminum ones that come in the tlr lay down are a different degree. Are you also running his different front end with the kick up shim grinded and modified?
Stock tear hubs and hrc front block, which is the same as the ground stock plastic with the kick shim underneath.
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When using the alum rear hubs on the 3.0 , does the logo face towards the back as it did with the 2.0 MM buggy? Does anyone know for sure?

Thank you all in advance for any help with this.
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