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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.

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Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root).

Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either.

I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'.

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Old 05-03-2016, 08:38 PM   #2731
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I hope so. Im just getting alot of heat right now because I think im
going to be one of the few guys running the opposite brand.
No issues running the other brand. If you need help setting up the car there is a community here. The 3.0 is a GREAT car. Show everyone else what they are missing.
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No issues running the other brand. If you need help setting up the car there is a community here. The 3.0 is a GREAT car. Show everyone else what they are missing.
Amen to that!
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Laydown transmission is installed. Now to find some carpet to test it on
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That has to be the weirdest spur gear I have ever seen... ^
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so, i have been following the laydown trans discussion...

is this the new thing for 17.5 racing??

i race on a med to high bite dirt track...
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so, i have been following the laydown trans discussion...

is this the new thing for 17.5 racing??

i race on a med to high bite dirt track...
Yes so buy one!

Ask Frank K. he will let you know how it works.
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Quick question for you guys, and probably been answered a bunch of times before.. But I've been out of the offroad scene for a few years and am planning on getting back in. I'm torn between the 22 3.0 and the B6/B6D. My questions is.. How necessary is the laydown transmission on carpet using slick tires? I have a mix of dirt and carpet tracks in my area and the nearest carpet track requires the use of slicks on carpet. I know the grip wouldn't be quite as high as it would be if we were using small pin type tires but I was thinking the regular transmission might not be as much a disadvantage over a laydown car in this situation. Any thoughts?
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That has to be the weirdest spur gear I have ever seen... ^
gear cover... cough...
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If you run carpet, do yourself a favor and give the laydown a try. Its proven to be faster on our clay track so thewriting is on the wall.
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Yes so buy one!

Ask Frank K. he will let you know how it works.
i suppose it will give me the edge to end the streak...lol
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I'm not sure if everyone saw or not, but we added setup sheets last week for the laydown car.

I just talked to Jake Thayer at OCRC, and he said he ran my setup to a "T", and he holds stock track record and has won the past few A-Mains with his laydown conversion.

http://www.tlracing.com/Products/Def...006#prodSetups
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Saw laydown last night on dirt, it looked pretty lethal.
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I'm not sure if everyone saw or not, but we added setup sheets last week for the laydown car.

I just talked to Jake Thayer at OCRC, and he said he ran my setup to a "T", and he holds stock track record and has won the past few A-Mains with his laydown conversion.

http://www.tlracing.com/Products/Def...006#prodSetups
Guess I'm totally screwed this year at the Stock Nats
The laydowns and locals will be at the top and us out-of-daters/towner's will fill the lower mains.
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Guess I'm totally screwed this year at the Stock Nats
The laydowns and locals will be at the top and us out-of-daters/towner's will fill the lower mains.
I'm pretty sure that Theo at Pacific Coast Hobbies still has some left in stock. Might call over there to find out.
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I'm pretty sure that Theo at Pacific Coast Hobbies still has some left in stock. Might call over there to find out.
Not ready to fork over $$$ for the hot setup
I will just have fun as always.
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