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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.

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Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root).

Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either.

I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'.

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Old 04-06-2016, 03:50 PM   #2566
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Thanks for the info Gene!
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Kyosho / XGear springs are more progressive than others to me. They aren't just a flat rate all the way through as they are typically softer initially then get stiffer which is why a lot of people like them. Golds up front are very good most of the time as you can get low speed and high speed but some don't like the rears as they seem to change more depending on how the rear end is reacting.

I've had good success with Gold fronts or a more linear spring and a linear spring out back. Anything like a TLR white/yellow/pink are pretty good depending on grip and layout. Many still run the kit yellow spring.
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Looks like Exotek is coming out with a laydown gearbox conversion set for the 3.0 that uses the current chassis setup:

http://www.exotekracing.com/22-3-0-l...ox-conversion/
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Old 04-07-2016, 01:47 PM   #2569
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Looks like Exotek is coming out with a laydown gearbox conversion set for the 3.0 that uses the current chassis setup:

http://www.exotekracing.com/22-3-0-l...ox-conversion/
interesting. im still more inclined to get a second car dedicated to carpet though because you still have to swap the tranny, hinge pins for HRC, suspension, tires, etc just seems like too much work for me.

nice to have options though!
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Looks like Exotek is coming out with a laydown gearbox conversion set for the 3.0 that uses the current chassis setup:

http://www.exotekracing.com/22-3-0-l...ox-conversion/
Nice find and priced really well
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does anyone mount their shocks on the front of their rear tower for carpet?
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Looks like Exotek is coming out with a laydown gearbox conversion set for the 3.0 that uses the current chassis setup:

http://www.exotekracing.com/22-3-0-l...ox-conversion/
Very interested! Just in time for summer on sugar.
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does anyone mount their shocks on the front of their rear tower for carpet?
Tried but they don't fit with the stock gearbox
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Tried but they don't fit with the stock gearbox
i will be running the laydown gear box
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I have been using two of the Losi gear differentials from the old RTR. I finally decided to order two of the Serpent diffs. Just put one together. Normally I like to recommend the manufacturer's parts, but when it comes to the gear diff, do yourself a favor and just get the Serpent from the beginning. Twice the price, but it is such a nicer and way smoother unit. No notchy feeling at all. Goes together much easier and the gears are molded or cut with higher precision.
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I have been using two of the Losi gear differentials from the old RTR. I finally decided to order two of the Serpent diffs. Just put one together. Normally I like to recommend the manufacturer's parts, but when it comes to the gear diff, do yourself a favor and just get the Serpent from the beginning. Twice the price, but it is such a nicer and way smoother unit. No notchy feeling at all. Goes together much easier and the gears are molded or cut with higher precision.
i use the srx2 gear diff as well, its amazing! so solid
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With those gear diffs, how do you incorporate the pulley for the belt?

Edit: ahh geez, wrong thread. I was thinking 22-4
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has there been any word of a release date for a 22SCT 3.0?
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has there been any word of a release date for a 22SCT 3.0?
Not yet I think the 22-4 2.0 is next. Sct might be another year or so.
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has there been any word of a release date for a 22SCT 3.0?
The 22T 3.0 prototype has been seen smoking its competition so im sure the SCT is following closely behind
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