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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.

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Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root).

Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either.

I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'.

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Something I made, pretty basic. Just to give people an idea.

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Old 03-05-2016, 07:45 AM   #2281
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17/31 was a typo lol I meant 70/31. Performance is there but I'm still about a second off the fast guys lap times. Could be my driving too though I'll just have to push it a little harder next practice day see what I can do with it.
It probably is your driving (unless you're visibly underpowered). Your temps are well within a safe range so try gearing up/down a couple of teeth each way to see what it gets you.

When working on the lap time, try not to think of it as "push harder", but instead " push better". That last second is usually in line and timing. I've almost never found more time in my radio's trigger.
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I ran my first race in more than 4 months, and the maiden voyage for the 3.0.

I qualified 6th, in a field of 11 cars. I got caught up in a crash leaving me last on the first lap. This car was amazing, I never once felt the car was about to lose it. Even when the car was sideways I was able just to hit the throttle and it straighten up and took off. I was able to pick lines without fear of losing control. Picked my way up to 4th and had the #2 & #3 in my sites was about to pass because I knew they couldn't make the jump and 180 turn as quick as I could. Then bad luck happened, a turn marshal jumped in front of me as I was in the air. I had no choice but to whip it and barely miss his head by inches. Unfortunately for me I crashed and it took forever before the marshal got back to me. Finished 5th, but the car was a dream to drive.

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I'm going to get my first race in with my 3.0 tomorrow. Fingers crossed.
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What parts do you guys recommend having on hand as replacements for racing? I guess more specifically what parts on this car are more prone to breakage? I currently have an extra set of arms, ball cups, and a couple spur gears and slipper pads but don't know what all to stock up on as I am new to the racing world and usually just shelved my cars if I broke them until parts got here.
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After many weeks of racing (and crashing) I managed to break a shock tower last night. That was weird.

Some are reporting breaking the rear ballstud mount, I saw my first last night.

If your car is new and your shop stocks parts, don't worry about breakage. This thing is pretty tough.
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How is everybody who is using the additional rear body fin attaching it to the main body?
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How is everybody who is using the additional rear body fin attaching it to the main body?
I used double sided tape instead of a screw and nut
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How is everybody who is using the additional rear body fin attaching it to the main body?
I used shoe goo.
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Looking for some setup advice to keep the car flatter in corners, I seem to be having an issues with traction rolling both at high and low speed
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Looking for some setup advice to keep the car flatter in corners, I seem to be having an issues with traction rolling both at high and low speed
Try 1mm more front droop.
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Try 1mm more front droop.
This comes from the guy who is killing our stock class records just for fun and also used the screws to mount his fin to the body.
Just sayin.
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Try 1mm more front droop.
Removing the limiter inside the piston to accomplish this? Or unscrewing the rod a bit?
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Default Alum servo mount

Is there aluminum servo mount made be TLR for this car.
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Is there aluminum servo mount made be TLR for this car.
Yes. Scroll down.

http://www.exotekracing.com/losi-tlr/
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