333LikesXray XB2 2WD Buggy Thread
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12-16-2015, 11:55 AM
#541
hmmm
Seem to be a few new XRAY guys, AE parts on your sweet car
, I am busting your balls.
, I am busting your balls.
12-16-2015, 05:06 PM
#544
nothing wrong with em
really like the bigger rod end and heavy duty studs
yes i looked at the akramin change
since Xray puts a 2mm shim under the stud
the EA one actually sit right about the same spot
i dont think its going to affect it much
maybe a lil change in bump steer
more of a piece of mind, i can manage to pop off a ballcup on pretty much any ride, but the AE heavy duties
plus i had em , worst is i don't like and change em.
its only money,right
really like the bigger rod end and heavy duty studs
yes i looked at the akramin change
since Xray puts a 2mm shim under the stud
the EA one actually sit right about the same spot
i dont think its going to affect it much
maybe a lil change in bump steer
more of a piece of mind, i can manage to pop off a ballcup on pretty much any ride, but the AE heavy duties
plus i had em , worst is i don't like and change em.
its only money,right
all you need is a regular tie rod end, instead of the curved one.
I run AE ends and balls on my XB4's.. Why? They are the best , hands down. they never need changing and don't come off. They do need some work at install, but Hey, it's AE..
12-16-2015, 05:16 PM
#545
Hey Guys,
Will the XB4 2WD Spur Gears fit this or do you need the new updated spur gears I noticed there is a new part number for the 3 plate spur gears (#365875), but im unsure if its actually a big change or just a minor enhancement thats a nice to have, rather than a need to have.
I have a few of the older spur gears, so be good to be able to use them if possible.
Thanks guys!
Toby
Will the XB4 2WD Spur Gears fit this or do you need the new updated spur gears I noticed there is a new part number for the 3 plate spur gears (#365875), but im unsure if its actually a big change or just a minor enhancement thats a nice to have, rather than a need to have.
I have a few of the older spur gears, so be good to be able to use them if possible.
Thanks guys!
Toby
12-16-2015, 09:26 PM
#546
When I was running my B5M, I seriously considered putting Xray ballstuds and ends on it... b/c the combo from AE were crappy tight and you had to do magical things with dremels and pray to questionable deities to get them to not cause your A-arm to stick.
12-16-2015, 10:53 PM
#547
Hey Guys,
Will the XB4 2WD Spur Gears fit this or do you need the new updated spur gears I noticed there is a new part number for the 3 plate spur gears (#365875), but im unsure if its actually a big change or just a minor enhancement thats a nice to have, rather than a need to have.
I have a few of the older spur gears, so be good to be able to use them if possible.
Thanks guys!
Toby
Will the XB4 2WD Spur Gears fit this or do you need the new updated spur gears I noticed there is a new part number for the 3 plate spur gears (#365875), but im unsure if its actually a big change or just a minor enhancement thats a nice to have, rather than a need to have.
I have a few of the older spur gears, so be good to be able to use them if possible.
Thanks guys!
Toby
No they will not fit.
The new spur gears have a larger center hole and the cage for the slipper plates is deeper.
'16 XB4 / XB2 spur on the left ………………………………………'13-'15 XB4 4WD / 2WD on the right
Bent
12-17-2015, 03:11 AM
#548
Bent not sure if your allowed to answer my question since its has not been released but will there be two different bodies one for the lay down trans and one for the dirt trans
12-17-2015, 06:39 AM
#550
Alright, my first race race report. lol
I built the car box stock minus the pistons and oil setup. I wne with 1.6/1.7 35/30wt oil. For reference, I race on high bite clay, the track is sealed with dirt glue and is really grippy. The tire of choice are clay slick. However, when it starts getting cool which it the weather has started to do here in houston the track gets a bit slick. At the moment our lap times are approx 1/2 sec per lap off due to the colder weather.
1st pack: I threw the car on the track without saucing, big mistake. The car had zero traction and was un drivable.
2nd pack: I sauced the rear tires and threw it down. The car was hard to drive, the rear end had very little grip and washed out everywhere. However i could feel the car had potential. Also, the dampening felt a bit too soft.
At this point I realize that the car needs some serious setup work with regards to the stock setup. To gain rear traction I decide to remove as much anti squat as possible. I change the car from 2 deg to 0 deg of anti-squat.
I put some sauce on the rear and throw it on the track. Bingo, the rear is hooked up. I finish the pack and am very happy with the change, however the rear is still a bit lose on exit, but mid corner the car actually has a bit of push to it.
I decide to reduce the caster and change from the 2.5 deg insert to the 0 deg insert. I re-sauce the rear and throw it down on the track. The rear is even more locked on exit and I can drive the car hard. Im still missing some mid corner steering though.
I shorten the rear camber link and remove one shim on the hub to adjust the roll center. I test the car again and its better, Im now about 1/2 sec off pace. Now the quals have started and I have also been helping my bro set his XB2 up.
The quals go OK, I' m right on pace but a bit slow and take 3rd where I ultimately finish int the main.
I then decide to reduce drop in the front and add another 3mm of limiters with a total of 4mm of limiter shims inside the shock.
I throw it on the track and BINGO! the car is strapped. I run 1/2 a lap faster than with the previous setup.
All in all, the car as a ton of potential, its super stable and the car feels like it would be impossible to traction roll with (unlike my RB6). The current setup actually feels very similar to how my RB6 was except much less tippy. My setup is getting very close. All my bros were very skeptical of how the car would perform due to the weight distribution.
Bottom line is the car is excellent, tons of potential. I'm very satisfied and I believe this car will be a world beater...
FYI, the pre-assembled ball diff doesnt have lube in it. Make sure to take it apart, clean it and lube it... Also, the gear diff is hands down the best ive built PERIOD.
I built the car box stock minus the pistons and oil setup. I wne with 1.6/1.7 35/30wt oil. For reference, I race on high bite clay, the track is sealed with dirt glue and is really grippy. The tire of choice are clay slick. However, when it starts getting cool which it the weather has started to do here in houston the track gets a bit slick. At the moment our lap times are approx 1/2 sec per lap off due to the colder weather.
1st pack: I threw the car on the track without saucing, big mistake. The car had zero traction and was un drivable.
2nd pack: I sauced the rear tires and threw it down. The car was hard to drive, the rear end had very little grip and washed out everywhere. However i could feel the car had potential. Also, the dampening felt a bit too soft.
At this point I realize that the car needs some serious setup work with regards to the stock setup. To gain rear traction I decide to remove as much anti squat as possible. I change the car from 2 deg to 0 deg of anti-squat.
I put some sauce on the rear and throw it on the track. Bingo, the rear is hooked up. I finish the pack and am very happy with the change, however the rear is still a bit lose on exit, but mid corner the car actually has a bit of push to it.
I decide to reduce the caster and change from the 2.5 deg insert to the 0 deg insert. I re-sauce the rear and throw it down on the track. The rear is even more locked on exit and I can drive the car hard. Im still missing some mid corner steering though.
I shorten the rear camber link and remove one shim on the hub to adjust the roll center. I test the car again and its better, Im now about 1/2 sec off pace. Now the quals have started and I have also been helping my bro set his XB2 up.
The quals go OK, I' m right on pace but a bit slow and take 3rd where I ultimately finish int the main.
I then decide to reduce drop in the front and add another 3mm of limiters with a total of 4mm of limiter shims inside the shock.
I throw it on the track and BINGO! the car is strapped. I run 1/2 a lap faster than with the previous setup.
All in all, the car as a ton of potential, its super stable and the car feels like it would be impossible to traction roll with (unlike my RB6). The current setup actually feels very similar to how my RB6 was except much less tippy. My setup is getting very close. All my bros were very skeptical of how the car would perform due to the weight distribution.
Bottom line is the car is excellent, tons of potential. I'm very satisfied and I believe this car will be a world beater...
FYI, the pre-assembled ball diff doesnt have lube in it. Make sure to take it apart, clean it and lube it... Also, the gear diff is hands down the best ive built PERIOD.
Last edited by symmetricon; 12-17-2015 at 08:02 AM.
12-17-2015, 07:19 AM
#551
Sorry
No problem
Bent
12-17-2015, 08:44 AM
#553
Alright, my first race race report. lol
I built the car box stock minus the pistons and oil setup. I wne with 1.6/1.7 35/30wt oil. For reference, I race on high bite clay, the track is sealed with dirt glue and is really grippy. The tire of choice are clay slick. However, when it starts getting cool which it the weather has started to do here in houston the track gets a bit slick. At the moment our lap times are approx 1/2 sec per lap off due to the colder weather.
1st pack: I threw the car on the track without saucing, big mistake. The car had zero traction and was un drivable.
2nd pack: I sauced the rear tires and threw it down. The car was hard to drive, the rear end had very little grip and washed out everywhere. However i could feel the car had potential. Also, the dampening felt a bit too soft.
At this point I realize that the car needs some serious setup work with regards to the stock setup. To gain rear traction I decide to remove as much anti squat as possible. I change the car from 2 deg to 0 deg of anti-squat.
I put some sauce on the rear and throw it on the track. Bingo, the rear is hooked up. I finish the pack and am very happy with the change, however the rear is still a bit lose on exit, but mid corner the car actually has a bit of push to it.
I decide to reduce the caster and change from the 2.5 deg insert to the 0 deg insert. I re-sauce the rear and throw it down on the track. The rear is even more locked on exit and I can drive the car hard. Im still missing some mid corner steering though.
I shorten the rear camber link and remove one shim on the hub to adjust the roll center. I test the car again and its better, Im now about 1/2 sec off pace. Now the quals have started and I have also been helping my bro set his XB2 up.
The quals go OK, I' m right on pace but a bit slow and take 3rd where I ultimately finish int the main.
I then decide to reduce drop in the front and add another 3mm of limiters with a total of 4mm of limiter shims inside the shock.
I throw it on the track and BINGO! the car is strapped. I run 1/2 a lap faster than with the previous setup.
All in all, the car as a ton of potential, its super stable and the car feels like it would be impossible to traction roll with (unlike my RB6). The current setup actually feels very similar to how my RB6 was except much less tippy. My setup is getting very close. All my bros were very skeptical of how the car would perform due to the weight distribution.
Bottom line is the car is excellent, tons of potential. I'm very satisfied and I believe this car will be a world beater...
FYI, the pre-assembled ball diff doesnt have lube in it. Make sure to take it apart, clean it and lube it... Also, the gear diff is hands down the best ive built PERIOD.
I built the car box stock minus the pistons and oil setup. I wne with 1.6/1.7 35/30wt oil. For reference, I race on high bite clay, the track is sealed with dirt glue and is really grippy. The tire of choice are clay slick. However, when it starts getting cool which it the weather has started to do here in houston the track gets a bit slick. At the moment our lap times are approx 1/2 sec per lap off due to the colder weather.
1st pack: I threw the car on the track without saucing, big mistake. The car had zero traction and was un drivable.
2nd pack: I sauced the rear tires and threw it down. The car was hard to drive, the rear end had very little grip and washed out everywhere. However i could feel the car had potential. Also, the dampening felt a bit too soft.
At this point I realize that the car needs some serious setup work with regards to the stock setup. To gain rear traction I decide to remove as much anti squat as possible. I change the car from 2 deg to 0 deg of anti-squat.
I put some sauce on the rear and throw it on the track. Bingo, the rear is hooked up. I finish the pack and am very happy with the change, however the rear is still a bit lose on exit, but mid corner the car actually has a bit of push to it.
I decide to reduce the caster and change from the 2.5 deg insert to the 0 deg insert. I re-sauce the rear and throw it down on the track. The rear is even more locked on exit and I can drive the car hard. Im still missing some mid corner steering though.
I shorten the rear camber link and remove one shim on the hub to adjust the roll center. I test the car again and its better, Im now about 1/2 sec off pace. Now the quals have started and I have also been helping my bro set his XB2 up.
The quals go OK, I' m right on pace but a bit slow and take 3rd where I ultimately finish int the main.
I then decide to reduce drop in the front and add another 3mm of limiters with a total of 4mm of limiter shims inside the shock.
I throw it on the track and BINGO! the car is strapped. I run 1/2 a lap faster than with the previous setup.
All in all, the car as a ton of potential, its super stable and the car feels like it would be impossible to traction roll with (unlike my RB6). The current setup actually feels very similar to how my RB6 was except much less tippy. My setup is getting very close. All my bros were very skeptical of how the car would perform due to the weight distribution.
Bottom line is the car is excellent, tons of potential. I'm very satisfied and I believe this car will be a world beater...
FYI, the pre-assembled ball diff doesnt have lube in it. Make sure to take it apart, clean it and lube it... Also, the gear diff is hands down the best ive built PERIOD.
12-17-2015, 09:11 AM
#554
I should have a pretty decent clay setup by the end of the weekend for the car. Wait till you blast through a sweeper with the car, it's so stable and doesn't feel tipsy at all.
A+ XRAY, we'll done.
12-17-2015, 12:02 PM
#555