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Xray XB2 Carpet Edition Instruction Manual
http://www.teamxray.com/xb2/2016/dow...ual_v2_low.pdf

Xray XB2 Dirt Edition Instruction Manual
http://www.teamxray.com/xb2/2016/dow...w.pdf?update=2

BentKa: Carpet Edition 4 gear to 3 gear laydown conversion parts:
  • Gearbox #323014
  • Motorplate #324012
  • 36T idler gear #324236
  • Brace for waterfall #324031


Socket: Bodies Available:

Xray has two OEM bodies, the .75mm and the .50mm light weight:
light weight: https://www.amainhobbies.com/xray-xb...329701/p492942

OEM .75mm: https://www.amainhobbies.com/xray-0....329700/p477762

Also, I've fitted the yz2 body, both the light and regular fit fine, just make your own cut lines:
https://www.amainhobbies.com/yokomo-...z2-101/p417674


[i] J Concepts S2 Body [i]


Penguin Racing makes a high grip body that fits the DE and CE:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/X-Ray-Xb2-Hi...oAAOSw1S9WewHV



Socket: Wheel fitment:

According to some, you'll require different offset rear hexes to use B5M wheels. According to my Hudy setup board, B5M wheels are the same offset. I measured the overall width of the car with XB2 wheels, and then again with B5M wheels, same measurement.

On the front, B5M wheels were 1.5mm wider. Xray offers hexes to reduce width -.75 on each side, or you could spend 3-5 minutes and sand your OEM hexes down .75mm.

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here are the hubs for losi and AE

for AE Front 365354 -0.75
for Losi rear 365358 +3.00 (4 stripe)
for AE rear 365359 +3.75 (5 stripe)



Socket: Flex and the XB2:

Flex screws are as follows:

Plastic bulkhead between motor and waterfall. Can remove screw in chassis, or remove bulkhead altogether.

Waterfall has 4 screws, can remove the inner two or outer two. IIRC, removing the inner two provides more flex, and thus more bite.

Removing the battery brace. This gives a tremendous amount of flex on the middle of the car, and can sometimes be inconsistent. I do this for outdoor racing on low bite. I like the feel over the 4 gear in 17.5 racing, since the 4 gear will take some snap away off the corner.

Rear C block - has inner and outer screws. I haven't played with this, as it's a crucial pivot point of the car.

Medium arms and towers -> I don't believe the carpet car has the rear medium tower available, however the DE DOES have an optional hard part. I think the hard parts are more consistent, especially when it gets hot (90+ degrees F). However, the medium parts do NOT break unless you're severely talented. They also don't wear out.



Socket: Avid/Schelle Slipper mod:

Credit to WillS, Matt Trimmings, and myself for figuring this out months ago.

Parts you'll need:

B5M V2 3gear compatible top shaft.
TKO Special 5x13x5 bear OR 5x13x6 bearing Either can work. This replaces the spur side bearing on the top shaft.
5mm shims, same shims used in 1/8th scale clutch bells. Look for protek .1mm and .2mm kit.
Avid or Schelle b5m top shaft kit, with spur gears of your choosing. (DE can't handle a 69, the CE can)

Shimming: You'll need to install the bearing in the front portion of the removable piece for the shaft. Make sure the bearing is pushed all the way in. With the TKO bearing, you'll need to shim approximately 1.4mm on the front side of the top shaft. Roughly .3-.5mm with the other bearing. This is a "feel" and tolerance setting. I urge you to watch videos about setting clutch bell play in 1/8th scale to get an idea of what yield you want for end play. Too tight, it'll eat bearings.

Outside of trans case: Use Avid/Schelle top shaft spacer plus .2mm shim to offset slipper from motor plate perfectly. Install slipper as instructed, and use Avid/Schelle spring and XB2 slipper nut.

- NEW - Schelle now sells Xb2 Topshafts. They include a spacer, so no need for shims in gearbox, and comes with the smaller bearing. Both methods work.

Socket: Yokomo Differential or MIP pucks:

Credit to: WillS for figuring out pucks, and as well fitting the Losi 22 diff with the same mods.

Parts needed: Yokomo Bmax2 or YZ2 complete diff OR Mip PUCKS outdrives
Xb2 diff gear
Bmax2 V3 Worlds rear dog bones, or Bmax 2 pucks dog bones
You'll use XB2 axles, and will require no other mods for the axles or dog bones.
You'll need .2mm outdrive/diff shims. Shim approximately .5mm on each side of the diff, behind the bearings. The top portion of the transmission is what "sets" the diff in place, not the bottom half. A little play back and forth is fine, the stock diff has some play from the factory.

dgrobe2112: CE to DE conversion:
along with the parts needed.. you MUST have these following hardware, or it wont work

https://www.teamxray.com/xb2/2016/do...conversion.pdf

(3) XRAY 902340 M3x40 button head screws. these are the screws that mount the motor mount to the tranny
(4) XRAY 903322 M3x22 counter sunk screws. these are for the rear diff case, to mount to the chassis. i think i used some M3x18 and they worked ok.

Socket: Best method for setting up the XB2 ball diff:

The XB2 diff is stellar when setup correctly. The spring is too short and soft, allowing the diff to slip. You'll need to glue the rings to the outdrives with just a drop of CA, then add a 1mm shim between the spring and the outdrive. This preloads the spring and stops the diff from slipping so easily.

OR, you can run the AE diff spring, which is both slightly longer, and stiffer. The overwhelming issue is the stock spring allows the nut to bottom out on the outdrive before the diff is tight enough.

This shim:
https://www.amainhobbies.com/xray-al...a303122/p12070

This diff spring (don't need a shim, then.)

https://www.teamassociated.com/parts...thrust_spring/

Functional Aftermarket parts: (Not just bling!)

Servo Horn: (The B5M sized horns are too short to get full throw)
https://www.amainhobbies.com/protek-...800-bk/p273496


Socket: Exotek has a full suite of parts, some bling, some not. Here's a list (all fit DE and CE, unless otherwise noted):

Titanium front axles: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-titanium-front-axles-2/

Rear Hanger, HD (Adds 4 grams): http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-rear...75-heavy-duty/

Brass C block, 18 grams added: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-rear...-brass-weight/

Alloy front camber mount: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-fron...er-mount-7075/

Carbon Fiber Chassis: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-carb...m-plate-2-5mm/

Alloy rear hubs:http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-allo...ub-set-2-7075/

Alloy servo mounts, allow for use of LP servo:http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-xb4-...-alloy-1-pair/

Titanium shock mounts: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-xb4-...shock-posts-2/

Slipper Eliminator: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-direct-spur-mount/
Xray eliminator is #324100

dgrobe2112: 2016-2017 new 3 gear laydown
Gearbox #323014
Motor plate #324012
36T idler gear #324236
Brace for waterfall #324031

dgrobe2112: Xray Spring Rate Conversion:
front C WHT
368174 2 str 0.65-0.85 3.71-4.85

358184 2 dot 0.65 3.71
368185 3 dot 0.72 4.11
368186 4 dot 0.80 4.57


Rear
368273 2 str 0.35-0.45 2.00-2.57

368284 1 Dot 0.35 2.00
368285 2 Dot 0.40 2.28
368286 3 Dot 0.45 2.57
368287 4 Dot 0.50 2.86

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Old 02-24-2016, 05:49 PM   #1621
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i finally got my exotek slipper eliminator installed so i can run a 17.5. How likely am i to strip the gears in the diff?
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i finally got my exotek slipper eliminator installed so i can run a 17.5. How likely am i to strip the gears in the diff?
As long as you are not landing at full throttle off jumps you will probably be fine.
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3 stripe is the stock 2.25mm, you need at least the 4 which is 3mm, or 5 which is 3.75mm. I believe the 5 is what you want, although I've been running the 4 on dirt.
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thanks for the info!

Just to clarify, running the 4 stripe rear hex with AE wheels in the rear will bring the car to stock rear width?

Or the 5 stripe rear hex with AE wheels in the rear will bring the car to stock rear width?

I'll also be running my car on clay/dirt mix tracks.

thanks

I guess... was told by Martin Bayer last week that the PL rim and stock Xray rim are pretty close to the same and that you would either want the stock 3 stripe or the next step up 4 stripe.
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also.. as an FYI... the newer Xray 12mm hex rims are quite soft. If you are running in medium to low traction you will definitely want that wheel. not sure about other brands.

When the traction comes up or if you run on really high traction, you will want the stiffer Proline wheel.
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also.. as an FYI... the newer Xray 12mm hex rims are quite soft. If you are running in medium to low traction you will definitely want that wheel. not sure about other brands.

When the traction comes up or if you run on really high traction, you will want the stiffer Proline wheel.
This is good info. I may buy some extra hexes once my AE wheels are cycled out. I'll try the xray wheels. in the northeast part of the US, the tracks tend to have less traction. those xray wheels might help me. I will say though that my current track, everyone runs slicks because the traction is so good.

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This is good info. I may buy some extra hexes once my AE wheels are cycled out. I'll try the xray wheels. in the northeast part of the US, the tracks tend to have less traction. those xray wheels might help me. I will say though that my current track, everyone runs slicks because the traction is so good.

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The factory AE wheels are also very very soft.
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XRAY 1/10 Off-Road Wheels

• Specially-designed 1/10 off-road wheels
• Excellent for high-competition racing
• Flexible, durable material withstands impacts
• 12mm internal hex
• Perfect fit
• Value Pack

Specially-designed XB4/XB2 wheels with 12mm internal hex.
Perfect fit, recommended for high-competition racing.
Made from very flexible yet durable material to withstand impacts.
The side of the wheel is aerodynamic for maximum performance.
Special features of the wheel are visible from the inside: reinforcement ribs to make the wheels as stable as possible and eliminate deformation.

Set of 5 pairs (10 pcs) for the price of 4 pairs. A great value pack.
  • 369902 4WD Front Wheel Aerodisk with 12mm Hex - White (10)
  • 369903 4WD/2WD Rear Wheel Aerodisk with 12mm Hex - White (10)
  • 329900 2WD Front Wheel Aerodisk with 12mm Hex - White (10)

http://bit.ly/1SKbtRG

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XB2 Stainless Steel Battery Weight

• Stainless steel material
• 50g weight
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• Improves landing
• Easier to drive
• More forgiving handling
• Inserted under battery directly on chassis

Specially-designed 50g stainless steel weight for placement beneath battery directly on chassis to add weight as low as possible.
Makes the car easier to drive, improves landing, and makes the care more “forgiving.”

A must-have option part.

#326180 Stainless Steel Battery Weight 50g - http://bit.ly/1SKbtRG



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Has the weight plate been optimised into the optimate weight for optimal and optimised performance of optimisation?
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Has the weight plate been optimised into the optimate weight for optimal and optimised performance of optimisation?
I truly hope so... anything less would be uncivilized.
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When are the wheels due to the us. I have had front wheels on backorder for like a month
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FYI, when you click on the "369903 4WD/2WD Rear Wheel Aerodisk with 12mm Hex - White (10)" link on your web page, it takes you to the page for the "Steering Brace 2.0mm - Graphite".

http://www.teamxray.com/teamxray/new...ca34da848a2232
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FYI, when you click on the "369903 4WD/2WD Rear Wheel Aerodisk with 12mm Hex - White (10)" link on your web page, it takes you to the page for the "Steering Brace 2.0mm - Graphite".

http://www.teamxray.com/teamxray/new...ca34da848a2232
I see the right stuff. I just have to scroll a bit
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Has the weight plate been optimised into the optimate weight for optimal and optimised performance of optimisation?
I do love the engineering/performance enthusiasm though! The "A must-have option part" made me chuckle. If it's a must have, it shouldn't be optional. "It's in the box!"
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I see the right stuff. I just have to scroll a bit
Click the link to the 10 pack about the 3rd section down... the link takes you here:

http://www.teamxray.com/teamxray/pro...53&kategoria=0
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