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Xray XB2 Carpet Edition Instruction Manual
http://www.teamxray.com/xb2/2016/dow...ual_v2_low.pdf

Xray XB2 Dirt Edition Instruction Manual
http://www.teamxray.com/xb2/2016/dow...w.pdf?update=2

BentKa: Carpet Edition 4 gear to 3 gear laydown conversion parts:
  • Gearbox #323014
  • Motorplate #324012
  • 36T idler gear #324236
  • Brace for waterfall #324031


Socket: Bodies Available:

Xray has two OEM bodies, the .75mm and the .50mm light weight:
light weight: https://www.amainhobbies.com/xray-xb...329701/p492942

OEM .75mm: https://www.amainhobbies.com/xray-0....329700/p477762

Also, I've fitted the yz2 body, both the light and regular fit fine, just make your own cut lines:
https://www.amainhobbies.com/yokomo-...z2-101/p417674


[i] J Concepts S2 Body [i]


Penguin Racing makes a high grip body that fits the DE and CE:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/X-Ray-Xb2-Hi...oAAOSw1S9WewHV



Socket: Wheel fitment:

According to some, you'll require different offset rear hexes to use B5M wheels. According to my Hudy setup board, B5M wheels are the same offset. I measured the overall width of the car with XB2 wheels, and then again with B5M wheels, same measurement.

On the front, B5M wheels were 1.5mm wider. Xray offers hexes to reduce width -.75 on each side, or you could spend 3-5 minutes and sand your OEM hexes down .75mm.

edit by dgrobe2112
here are the hubs for losi and AE

for AE Front 365354 -0.75
for Losi rear 365358 +3.00 (4 stripe)
for AE rear 365359 +3.75 (5 stripe)



Socket: Flex and the XB2:

Flex screws are as follows:

Plastic bulkhead between motor and waterfall. Can remove screw in chassis, or remove bulkhead altogether.

Waterfall has 4 screws, can remove the inner two or outer two. IIRC, removing the inner two provides more flex, and thus more bite.

Removing the battery brace. This gives a tremendous amount of flex on the middle of the car, and can sometimes be inconsistent. I do this for outdoor racing on low bite. I like the feel over the 4 gear in 17.5 racing, since the 4 gear will take some snap away off the corner.

Rear C block - has inner and outer screws. I haven't played with this, as it's a crucial pivot point of the car.

Medium arms and towers -> I don't believe the carpet car has the rear medium tower available, however the DE DOES have an optional hard part. I think the hard parts are more consistent, especially when it gets hot (90+ degrees F). However, the medium parts do NOT break unless you're severely talented. They also don't wear out.



Socket: Avid/Schelle Slipper mod:

Credit to WillS, Matt Trimmings, and myself for figuring this out months ago.

Parts you'll need:

B5M V2 3gear compatible top shaft.
TKO Special 5x13x5 bear OR 5x13x6 bearing Either can work. This replaces the spur side bearing on the top shaft.
5mm shims, same shims used in 1/8th scale clutch bells. Look for protek .1mm and .2mm kit.
Avid or Schelle b5m top shaft kit, with spur gears of your choosing. (DE can't handle a 69, the CE can)

Shimming: You'll need to install the bearing in the front portion of the removable piece for the shaft. Make sure the bearing is pushed all the way in. With the TKO bearing, you'll need to shim approximately 1.4mm on the front side of the top shaft. Roughly .3-.5mm with the other bearing. This is a "feel" and tolerance setting. I urge you to watch videos about setting clutch bell play in 1/8th scale to get an idea of what yield you want for end play. Too tight, it'll eat bearings.

Outside of trans case: Use Avid/Schelle top shaft spacer plus .2mm shim to offset slipper from motor plate perfectly. Install slipper as instructed, and use Avid/Schelle spring and XB2 slipper nut.

- NEW - Schelle now sells Xb2 Topshafts. They include a spacer, so no need for shims in gearbox, and comes with the smaller bearing. Both methods work.

Socket: Yokomo Differential or MIP pucks:

Credit to: WillS for figuring out pucks, and as well fitting the Losi 22 diff with the same mods.

Parts needed: Yokomo Bmax2 or YZ2 complete diff OR Mip PUCKS outdrives
Xb2 diff gear
Bmax2 V3 Worlds rear dog bones, or Bmax 2 pucks dog bones
You'll use XB2 axles, and will require no other mods for the axles or dog bones.
You'll need .2mm outdrive/diff shims. Shim approximately .5mm on each side of the diff, behind the bearings. The top portion of the transmission is what "sets" the diff in place, not the bottom half. A little play back and forth is fine, the stock diff has some play from the factory.

dgrobe2112: CE to DE conversion:
along with the parts needed.. you MUST have these following hardware, or it wont work

https://www.teamxray.com/xb2/2016/do...conversion.pdf

(3) XRAY 902340 M3x40 button head screws. these are the screws that mount the motor mount to the tranny
(4) XRAY 903322 M3x22 counter sunk screws. these are for the rear diff case, to mount to the chassis. i think i used some M3x18 and they worked ok.

Socket: Best method for setting up the XB2 ball diff:

The XB2 diff is stellar when setup correctly. The spring is too short and soft, allowing the diff to slip. You'll need to glue the rings to the outdrives with just a drop of CA, then add a 1mm shim between the spring and the outdrive. This preloads the spring and stops the diff from slipping so easily.

OR, you can run the AE diff spring, which is both slightly longer, and stiffer. The overwhelming issue is the stock spring allows the nut to bottom out on the outdrive before the diff is tight enough.

This shim:
https://www.amainhobbies.com/xray-al...a303122/p12070

This diff spring (don't need a shim, then.)

https://www.teamassociated.com/parts...thrust_spring/

Functional Aftermarket parts: (Not just bling!)

Servo Horn: (The B5M sized horns are too short to get full throw)
https://www.amainhobbies.com/protek-...800-bk/p273496


Socket: Exotek has a full suite of parts, some bling, some not. Here's a list (all fit DE and CE, unless otherwise noted):

Titanium front axles: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-titanium-front-axles-2/

Rear Hanger, HD (Adds 4 grams): http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-rear...75-heavy-duty/

Brass C block, 18 grams added: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-rear...-brass-weight/

Alloy front camber mount: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-fron...er-mount-7075/

Carbon Fiber Chassis: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-carb...m-plate-2-5mm/

Alloy rear hubs:http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-allo...ub-set-2-7075/

Alloy servo mounts, allow for use of LP servo:http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-xb4-...-alloy-1-pair/

Titanium shock mounts: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-xb4-...shock-posts-2/

Slipper Eliminator: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-direct-spur-mount/
Xray eliminator is #324100

dgrobe2112: 2016-2017 new 3 gear laydown
Gearbox #323014
Motor plate #324012
36T idler gear #324236
Brace for waterfall #324031

dgrobe2112: Xray Spring Rate Conversion:
front C WHT
368174 2 str 0.65-0.85 3.71-4.85

358184 2 dot 0.65 3.71
368185 3 dot 0.72 4.11
368186 4 dot 0.80 4.57


Rear
368273 2 str 0.35-0.45 2.00-2.57

368284 1 Dot 0.35 2.00
368285 2 Dot 0.40 2.28
368286 3 Dot 0.45 2.57
368287 4 Dot 0.50 2.86

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Old 11-13-2015, 06:36 AM   #61
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Yea but you'll still have to upgrade every year which is why xray= thumbs down
That's a lame statement. I would much rather have a car that keeps progressing every year. I'm much happier with my xb4 16 over my 14. That's ok you can have fun with your kit that only updates every 3 years. Also nobody is forcing you to upgrade. It's an option that I am very glad is offered. Enjoy your original iPhone because you didn't like upgrading that every year also.
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Oh no, new upgrades every year? That is the worst, I hate uogrades. Hahahahaha.
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Is it possible I am interpreting the pictures correctly? It appears that you will be able to remove the differential assembly without taking out and splitting apart the whole gearbox? It looks like a composite cap to cover the diff portion. If this is true, Kudos Xray. Fantastic idea......
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Is it possible I am interpreting the pictures correctly? It appears that you will be able to remove the differential assembly without taking out and splitting apart the whole gearbox? It looks like a composite cap to cover the diff portion. If this is true, Kudos Xray. Fantastic idea......
Yes…..6 screws and you have the diff in hand

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One significant last-minute change was the change of the chassis design to allow the mounting of two different gearboxes and motor mount holders that would allow placement of the motor in all 3 different positions so the car worked great in every single track condition including the dusty super-low traction conditions or super-high traction astro tracks. This was one of the main features that I really like and I am sure everyone else will appreciate on the production car.


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Yea but you'll still have to upgrade every year which is why xray= thumbs down
You don't "have" to upgrade every year at all, I'm still running my 2013 XB4 to good results.

Don't forget that some people like to have a new car every season, so to be able to get an updated car you know, isn't a bad thing. Better then buying the same car that is getting more & more out of date.
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That's a lame statement. I would much rather have a car that keeps progressing every year. I'm much happier with my xb4 16 over my 14. That's ok you can have fun with your kit that only updates every 3 years. Also nobody is forcing you to upgrade. It's an option that I am very glad is offered. Enjoy your original iPhone because you didn't like upgrading that every year also.
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You don't "have" to upgrade every year at all, I'm still running my 2013 XB4 to good results.

Don't forget that some people like to have a new car every season, so to be able to get an updated car you know, isn't a bad thing. Better then buying the same car that is getting more & more out of date.
Updating your car every year doesn't make you faster, thats Xray's marketing department telling you that. Cars update from time to time, a piece here and there, but there's a reason Xray is the only company that does it annually and it isn't because they know something nobody else does.

And iphones? really talk about cheap POS's.. Android ftw.. update every 2-3yrs and still have a more capable phone then whatever the newest iCrap can do.

And although you don't have to update every year, nor am i being forced buy Why would I buy a car knowing in 9-12mos there's not just a few parts but a whole other car. I won't argue with anyone who has bought into xray.. although you guys are a much smaller group, Xray owners seem to swing from a tighter rope than any other fanboys.

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Updating your car every year doesn't make you faster, thats Xray's marketing department telling you that. Cars update from time to time, a piece here and there, but there's a reason Xray is the only company that does it annually and it isn't because they know something nobody else does.

And iphones? really talk about cheap POS's.. Android ftw.. update every 2-3yrs and still have a more capable phone then whatever the newest iCrap can do.

And although you don't have to update every year, nor am i being forced buy Why would I buy a car knowing in 9-12mos there's not just a few parts but a whole other car. I won't argue with anyone who has bought into xray.. although you guys are a much smaller group, Xray owners seem to swing from a tighter rope than any other fanboys.

lol iphones...
So what are you doing here on the Xray XB2 thread then

You don't like Xray cars and you don't want to own one yet you insist on posting on a thread regarding the release of a new Xray car

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On my more heavily used cars, I kind of like it when there are updated kits. Doesn't bother me at all and who doesn't like to start on a fresh new kit? Rather than rebuilding a low quality car many times over (older associated cars).

Never understood peeps who refuse to buy a certain brand car because they update often.
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Multiple gearboxes = cool feature!
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Is the car going to come with both gearboxes?
You will have to wait for the official release to find out

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I'll say this about the xb2. If it's as good as the xb4, then I'm in on the xb2. I'm saying this when I love my b5m and I'm an AE guy. Will be following.
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