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Old 01-20-2015, 06:13 AM   #1
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Default Hobbywing 4700 vs. Tekin 4300 HD vs Trinity Zombie 545

Not trying to start a fanboy war or anything but would like opinions on the motors mentioned to run in a 4x4 SCT on an avg size 1/8 scale track. Likely will be running the Hobbywing SCT esc because I've had good luck with their speed controllers but have no experience with their motors.
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Not trying to start a fanboy war or anything but would like opinions on the motors mentioned to run in a 4x4 SCT on an avg size 1/8 scale track. Likely will be running the Hobbywing SCT esc because I've had good luck with their speed controllers but have no experience with their motors.
The 4000kv is the best all around motor in my opinion. The 4700KV is a monster and after gearing it down to make time on a big track you could just run the 4000kv and be just as fast down the straight. Now if you have some monster jumps to clear then try the 4700KV.
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The 4000kv is the best all around motor in my opinion. The 4700KV is a monster and after gearing it down to make time on a big track you could just run the 4000kv and be just as fast down the straight. Now if you have some monster jumps to clear then try the 4700KV.
Exactly. My experiences with the Tekin HD motor is that its too peaky feeling. It starts out with a massive amount of torque, then it seems like it flatlines. I also don't see a point to limiting the ESC so much. You'd be better off with a 2 pole at that point.

The Hobbywing is my favorite so far. It is much smoother through the RPM band, but can still give you the punch where its needed. Runs cooler than both the other motors.

The Zombie is the most hated motor I regretfully own. Is it fast? Yes. Does it have power? Yes. Does it do this within a reasonable temperature? No. mine ran 200 or more no matter what I did. Gearing down/up, reduced timing, current limiter. Nothing helped.

All in all id say the HW 4000 or 4700 is the best choice.
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I had great luck running the 4700 kv in trucks. I went to a HD 4300 because one fell in my lap , and I would be equally as happy with either. If your track uses more than half throttle for most of a lap , the 4700 will come into its own . If you need to rip from corner to corner the Tekin is nice. I have not run the trinity , so no comment on that. Let the track kinda decide here , dusty and slick I think the 4700 was easier to be smooth with . Lots of grip , the 4300 is a beast . Long full throttle runs , the 4700 . Lots of short run ups to big jumps , 4300 . Cant go wrong with either one . When I ran the 4700 , my punch was set at 6 or 7 . With the 4300 , im set at 3 or 4. Tekin gets a nod for service and support in my book becasue of personal experiences , but my Hobbywing never had a problem , so theres that ....
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The 4000kv is the best all around motor in my opinion. The 4700KV is a monster and after gearing it down to make time on a big track you could just run the 4000kv and be just as fast down the straight. Now if you have some monster jumps to clear then try the 4700KV.
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i run a hw 4700 but its too much for the tracks i run on. i tone it down with gearing, esc etc but the 4000 will be what i buy next
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Thanks for all the advice. I've narrowed it down to either the 4000 or 4700kv Hobbywing. Don't know why I wanted someone to say the zombie so badly. I run d4's on my buggy so I've developed into a bit of of trinity guy
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The Hobbywing 4000kv is more than enough trust me ! Its a really smooth motor though with a lot of torque and with it geared up fast on the straight away .

Not to mention easyier on you batterys and runtime than the 4700 kv one.
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Thanks for all the advice. I've narrowed it down to either the 4000 or 4700kv Hobbywing. Don't know why I wanted someone to say the zombie so badly. I run d4's on my buggy so I've developed into a bit of of trinity guy
I really wanted the Zombie to be better than it was also. Trinity owns the 2wd market really, but they need to dedicate some more time in figuring out 4 poles.
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My first zombie motor lasted 1/2 a battery pack. They replaced it but I sold that one. We I did run it I was not impressed with the zombie 4850kv.
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I have been running the HW 4700kV for year and a half now. Loved it. So, six months into it, not knowing what to expect, I bought a new one to have as a spare in case this took a dump. I still have the NIB motor sitting in box collecting dust; still love the 4700kV, still going strong.

I replaced bearings before on a Castle and Sonic motors. This one I have not touched. I haven't even opened it up yet.

I would buy it again.
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I run the Tekin in mine and man I really like it. Great power. Very smooth. Runs cool. No complaints from me.
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I'm still new to racing, so my opinion may not be warranted.

I also can't really compare them at this point, but I'll give you what I've found so far. I ran the pro4 HD 4300, and it was a beast, I had the current turned down to 40%, and throttle turned down to 70%. Switched to the pro4 4600kv, and not even close to the HD. I had to turn current & throttle up to 100% just to get around the track in decent form. I'm swapping to the HW 4700 tonight to try tomorrow.

I'm still looking for either a pro4 4k or a HW 4k to test out and see what I like. That pro4 HD 4300 is a frigging beast though. Even though I was able to be more consistent with the 4600kv, my fastest lap time dropped with the 4600 (fastest lap time 20.1 vs 22.3. The fast guys are hitting 18's) I also broke my record differential and hit 1.9s diff last Saturday, just doing it slower. I did keep the same tooth pinion in the swap, maybe that's something I should have changed.
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The 4600kv can be easier to drive with and more constant on the 4wd SC outdoors but on indoor tracks from experience the 4000kv motors have better torque yet smooth the HW xerun motor and speed wise on tighter indoor tracks with decent size jumps.

On outdoor tracks though the 4600kv is pretty good especially on loose dry dirt.
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The Pro4 4600 and Pro4 HD 4300 should generally be geared two teeth differently. On a TLR SCTE the 4600 should be in the 13-15T range, the Pro4 HD should be in the 15-17T range. FYI
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The Pro4 4600 and Pro4 HD 4300 should generally be geared two teeth differently. On a TLR SCTE the 4600 should be in the 13-15T range, the Pro4 HD should be in the 15-17T range. FYI
Interesting, thanks. Guess I need to find a 13t mod1 pinion then. I'll check to see if the LHS has the 13t tomorrow before swapping the motors then.

It figures though, I have 15t-19t. I am running a 15t right now.

Any suggestion on pinion for the HW 4700? Bear in mind, the 15t was used on the pro4HD. (another tekno driver running the pro4 4k is running a 17t pinion)
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