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Old 12-07-2015, 09:19 AM   #2566
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no im talking about my shock springs. we use m4 electrons with sauce at my track
Have you tried the new springs? I am running gray fronts (1.6 35wt) and white rears (1.7 30wt): Dialed!
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Have you tried the new springs? I am running gray fronts (1.6 35wt) and white rears (1.7 30wt): Dialed!
I think that would be too stiff I'm using 30f 25r 1.6 and 1.7 Pistons white front green rears
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Old 12-07-2015, 04:21 PM   #2568
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I think that would be too stiff I'm using 30f 25r 1.6 and 1.7 Pistons white front green rears
It's definitely not "stiff". I'm using 35f/30r and it seems to be a good combo. My pistons are the same size as yours too. I tried 30/25 and kept bottoming out on the larger jumps. Then again, I'm running zero AS and I'm sure that contributed to it a bit. Where do you have your anti squat and what degree toe are you running in the rear?
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Old 12-07-2015, 06:07 PM   #2569
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I think one thing to keep in mind with shock/spring setups is not everyone runs on indoor high bite clay so to say my truck is dialed with certain springs is not going to work for someone else who runs on a different type of track
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[QUOTE=450rdawg;14296468]It's definitely not "stiff". I'm using 35f/30r and it seems to be a good combo. My pistons are the same size as yours too. I tried 30/25 and kept bottoming out on the larger jumps. Then again, I'm running zero AS and I'm sure that contributed to it a bit. Where do you have your anti squat and what degree toe are you running in the rear?[/QUO

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Old 12-07-2015, 07:37 PM   #2571
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I think you need to go back to totally box stock set-up and work from there. I have not changed anything in my truck since the day I bought it, except for the MIP transmission and I am REALLY tempted to put a 4 gear back in it just to try it because when I went back from 3 gear to 4 gear in my SC5M the truck went from junk to amazing with no other changes. I run an 8.5 in both of my trucks and never once felt as though it was too much motor, and never struggled with rear grip. I run Proline M4 Primes with sauce on both trucks.
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I think you need to go back to totally box stock set-up and work from there. I have not changed anything in my truck since the day I bought it, except for the MIP transmission and I am REALLY tempted to put a 4 gear back in it just to try it because when I went back from 3 gear to 4 gear in my SC5M the truck went from junk to amazing with no other changes. I run an 8.5 in both of my trucks and never once felt as though it was too much motor, and never struggled with rear grip. I run Proline M4 Primes with sauce on both trucks.
if u are running primes i wouldnt think u would struggle for grip
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I race on a indoor high bite clay track that is well taken care of year round. my first race was box setup with the 4-gear trans. and an 8.5 motor. to me I didn't think the motor was to much, and I liked the truck the way it handled except it wanted to jump a little nose heavy, and had a push in the tight switch back corners. I could do the high speed sweepers fine. And also I had bar codes for tires, which seemed to work better later in the evening. I race on a budget so I didn't have another set of tires to switch to. when we raced the next time I had added some weight to the rear besides the battery and switched to the 3-gear trans. and still had same tires. the truck jumped better and was just as fast or faster than others in the class in the long straights but still had the push in the tighter corners. For my next race I have a set of one of the preferred tires chain links, removed the weight I added and dropped the spring weight in the front from 3.6 to the 3.3 and dropped the inner rear ball studs from the 3mm to 2 mm which was a change I was told to do at previous race and seemed to help. I really like the truck and know most of it may be my driving which I know needs to improve, like someone else mentioned. so off to see if changes are going in right direction.
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Old 12-08-2015, 03:07 PM   #2575
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I think one thing to keep in mind with shock/spring setups is not everyone runs on indoor high bite clay so to say my truck is dialed with certain springs is not going to work for someone else who runs on a different type of track
This is very true. I don't run indoor much so my setup is designed more around a medium grip, outdoor track with jumps that are a little bigger than the typical indoor track. This is why those days spent tuning at the track, one vehicle at a time, are priceless.
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:16 PM   #2576
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curious if anyone has used the 3.5mm rear toe in block inserts yet? wondering if they notice any difference.
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if u are running primes i wouldnt think u would struggle for grip
Ok there has been a lot of back and forth from one topic to the other without getting answers on the questions...

From what I have seen you are struggling for rear grip... i believe I read you are running indoors using electrons.. i will assume they are the right tire for the track..

You need to define where you are having grip issues... is it entering a corner or exiting and getting in power? Of all my 5m series rides my T5M has by far the most grip and is as close to box setup.

Once you define where you are having grip issues we can suggest changes from there.

Also please provide your entire setup fromt and rear.
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why go with brass?
For more weight on the rear.
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For more weight on the rear.
Try going with just a brass c block and the standard Aluminum D block. you might find taking that weight out from the very back of your car will help. Also i saw guys talking spring.. you should be able to run the White AE truck springs all around almost anywhere, maybe sometimes go to a Green rear. or on super high traction up to the grey front but I would start the base shock set up off of white springs all around and go from there.
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Just got mine, going to look through this thread for tips.
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