symmetricon

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First of all, i never said you were offended, you said i slammed him which i did not. I pointed out that the xb4 needs a few hopups. Oooo what a slam. Get over it. How is what your saying any different than what I'm saying, we are both speculating. So you are just as guilty as I. At least I admit it. The fact is that two b44 broke when tangling with the d413, fact. If you doubt a center is an improvement then how do I put it? Try running your 1/8 en buggy or truly with a slipper/spool or locked center diff. You don't think a center diff would help?! For instance, Mantisworx made a center diff for the new team c wheeler and it works exceptionally well, it makes the car easier to drive which make the car more consistent and faster. There is a ton of empirical data on how center diffs improve off road performance. The facts speak for themselves. ...

symmetricon

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Furthermore, the thickness of the c diff fluid Ty is using does not mean the c diff is not being used as a diff. For instance, the slash 4x4 c diff typically uses 100k-300k. The point is that the size and design of the diff and it's internals dictate the range of usable of oils....

egobrkr

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And this is all funny because tlr says that ball diffs are the way to go. A lot of the team drivers want gear diffs but the engineers say that ball diffs are superior to gear diffs in handling.

ridgeracer

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I like geardiffs on high grip tracks like astroturf and balldiffs on medium and low grip tracks. It feels and looks like I have better grip in corners With balldiffs on Our med/low bite track.. (TRF511) Could be the oil in the diffs also

symmetricon

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I never said the 22-4 was the next best thing..... and the 22-4 did break parts at worlds....

symmetricon

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Agreed, I like ball diffs on low bite. With the center diff, gear diffs will have a much better sweet spot on low and high bite....

ridgeracer

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I thought the 22-4 was the next best thing

symmetricon

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Ah...lol

rcgod

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I'm not speculating. I never said a center diff was the way to go or not. You did. I hope the car is as good as you say but I'm cautiously optimistic until I actually get one and drive and own it. Point is neither one of us own one so how can it be touted as the best when the only non team drivers that have them are the euros? Damn near any car works good on astro. And I was going by the diff fluids recommended by the designer of the car in a post here. Not what Ty is running.

Everyone knows the b44 series are the most fragile cars out. Comparing the 413 to those doesn't mean anything. Yes the 413 looks beefy but when a noob drives it and crashes the hell out of it then we will see. And hopefully parts support will be good unlike the b5m I bought last month. Or the 22-4 my buddy bought. If ae and losi have issues with parts support then I'm a little worried about hotbodies. Hope I'm wrong.

trick25

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thats all well and good as long as you can get the extra parts.

symmetricon

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Looks like speculation to me.... You assume since that heavy a setup would be bad in 1/8 it would be bad in 1/10th. Case in point. As I said, the thickness of the diff fluid is not the only determining factor as to how much diff action there is. My example was the slash 4x4. The team c ts4 and desc410 also did well with thick diff fluids...

egobrkr

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It could use that thick of diff oil because how small the diffs are and something like a 5k or 7k would thin out very fast during a race. Just my thought.

fq06

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To get back to the point of this thread, the OP is looking for a wheeler that is easy to drive, similar to a 1/8 scale e buggy.

The most similar would be a wheeler with a center diff, not the front & rear locked together with a slipper thingy.
A C-Diff will make any vehicle easier to drive on regular Joe tracks, sugar & astro, lock it all up.

Any wheeler will break in the hands of the inexperienced, given time behind the wheel, dnf's will be reduced.

I don't know about latest & greatest, but I can say that I think HB is headed in the right direction for the wheeler class doing what they can to reduce breakage and make the buggy out handle most others out there on medium to low tracks that a lot of racers will drive on.

Those that are coming from 1/8 may not be used to building ball diffs so that's something I would put on the can't do without list. A ball diff built by someone that's not a pro at it will have a crappy out of adjustment diff that has terrible performance and will probably be toast after a day of driving.
Gear diff, fill & forget. Consistent settings time and time again by using the same fluid as the last time, not some deft touch with diff screw tension.

ridgeracer

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Good point, but do you really need a center diff in 1/10 4wd to get a car that is easy to drive ? Isnt the center diff there to get rid of push in corners and prolong the life of the driveline?
My TRF511 is MY easiest 4wd to drive. I dont have my fastest lap With it, but I have my most consistent runs With it.

wittyname

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Would the OP be so kind as to clarify something for us. When you say "like a 1/8 buggy" what traits in particular are you after ? Jumps ? Bumps ? Corners ? Acceleration ? While a center diff may be great , it may not have anything to do with what the OP likes about 1/8 buggies.