68pontiac

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It's time for me to rebuild my 22 and 22T shocks. I've already got the low-friction X-rings installed, but I don't have the machined pistons or low frequency springs. I'm just wondering if anybody has some firsthand experience with them. Did they make a distinct difference over the original springs? Worth the ~ $45 for a full set? Same for the machined pistons, really worth the $15/set? For what it's worth I already have all the 2.0 suspension parts installed on the buggy.

uclabruins89

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I got the LF spring sets for the 22-4. Much better than the stock non-LF springs imho. Just made the car feel more settled for me.

Sorry I cant give more of a technical reply, but I love the LF springs so far

68pontiac

iTrader: (10)

Thanks for the reply. That's really what I'm wanting - my car to feel more settled or consistent. I just really wish we could buy those springs individually rather than in packs.

gticlay

iTrader: (14)

What you have to understand about the LF springs (and why they come as a set!) is that they are all based around the Orange spring in front and the yellow out back. So, for example, for the fronts, the pink LF is still stiffer than the red nonLF and the silver LF is still softer than the silver non LF.

You just get micro steps between springs.

uclabruins89

iTrader: (5)

LF springs have more to do with them than just rates... they have less push back, so they feel softer than non-LF springs of similar rate. From TLR blog:

"The LF springs have a higher coil count than the traditional TLR Spring, which provides a lower frequency and a much less progressive feel. On the track, this translates to more overall grip around the track, and a less aggressive spring rebound which really helps the car settle after landing jumps."

http://losiracing.blogspot.com/2013/...-22-buggy.html

68pontiac

iTrader: (10)

I'm less concerned about the spring rates (or the increments) but more interested in the additional grip and decreased rebound. I race on a hard-packed but loose/dusty track so people are always looking for traction.

elex300

iTrader: (110)

I run them on my Serpent buggies with machined pistons. Worth every penny! They make the buggy feel like it has air suspension.

gticlay

iTrader: (14)

Yeah, I know about that sales jargon It's important that people don't think a pink is a pink is a pink though.

uclabruins89

iTrader: (5)

It would only be jargon if it wasn't true, but what they say about progression and increased traction is absolutely true. LF springs are worth every penny like the guy up there said.

ntJeff

iTrader: (26)

I bought them, but liked AE springs more. Not worth the $45, imo.

Davidka

iTrader: (86)

There are no universal truths in setup. Mugen released new springs a few years back that went completely the opposite direction.

Bummer that they don't sell them in pairs...

CaseyD

iTrader: (2)

Hopefully they do what AE did, when the big bores first came out they only sold them in the sets, then they released them as pairs. If not thats a cheap way of making you buy all of them for only wanting/ needing a certain rate. i just ran into this with my sons 22, wanted try Phends set up, well guess what, i cant get the springs without getting the whole set for 45 bucks, so i just got the AE springs that were the closest. And to be honest the AE springs fit and feel better. And in comparing rates, the coil counts are similar between the TLR LF and AE. One of our more seasoned drivers gave a quick no scientific run down on his experience with springs: Kyosho --> AE/ Avid --> TLR.