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Old 03-17-2014, 06:17 PM
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Rigor. I remember you said you had removed the spacers from the inner rear ballstuds because when you were coming into 180 degree turns the car was "hooking" which I think you mean when you would enter into the turn, the rear end of the car was whipping around (same as mine does).
If so, from what I was just told here you and I want to add spacers or lengthen the rear camber link, not take the spacers away.
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:19 PM
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This is the way I remember the link setups. Long is lazy.
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Originally Posted by TheBlueKnight
Rigor. I remember you said you had removed the spacers from the inner rear ballstuds because when you were coming into 180 degree turns the car was "hooking" which I think you mean when you would enter into the turn, the rear end of the car was whipping around (same as mine does).
If so, from what I was just told here you and I want to add spacers or lengthen the rear camber link, not take the spacers away.
This can also be caused by the front tires having too much traction. If the front tires have considerably more grip than the rear, or the front of the car is way too soft compared to the rear, the front will bite soo hard that the rear can't hold traction and will just start to rotate.
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tropmonky
He was looking for alumninum though.
I thought.
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by rigor
EDIT: Wait... Is it the same front shock tower for both the B5R and B5M ?? I heard a different tower was needed for each front arm type ?? I can't go wrench for another few hours to find out the answer :P

The manuals say the B5 tower is PN 91373, the B5M PN is 91516.
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tropmonky
So I'm doing some work on my car today and I was checking the front end for slop.

I'm finding there is some slop developing on the front hubs, the plastic parts used to adjust the front hubs are getting some slop developing. This is a little concerning because I haven't run my car all that much yet and wouldn't expect to see this type of slop developing at this point yet. I checked that the screw was tight in the end of the shaft, that's not the problem.

Anyone else seeing this?
Get the "hard" version of the steering and/or caster blocks, and glue your inserts in for good. Folks already doing that.
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by roundguy
The manuals say the B5 tower is PN 91373, the B5M PN is 91516.
Amain had me confused for a few minutes. Thanks
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Thank you I'll give that a try... One more question, what is pack? I thought I knew but now I'm totally confused
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:43 PM
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Yep, the TLR spacers are very nice. It's worth the $20.
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Don't forget which car had the fast lap, top 5 and top 10 jake.... Wish I could've stayed for the main but it was nice to compare the b5 and b5m. The m was different but the driving style was easily adaptable.

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is where i am at right now with my b5m. car was really easy to drive a medium traction dirt surface. when the track is dry it becomes dusty and traction levels are drastically decreased, in these conditions i would run hubs forward to gain rear grip, at a minor loss of steering.

car was so easy to drive everyone watching said it just looked SLOW on my TQ run for the night (ahead of a few b5r, xfactory cubed, b4.2s and some losi 22 2.0s) with this setup it didnt feel like it needed to driven hard to be fast.

on another note, using the b4.2 jconcepts wing the holes are drilled 5mm-6mm back from the "kit" marks. played with it as far forward as the b4.2 kit mark, and as far back as 12mm from them, ended up with the best feel at 5mm-6mm range.

using a shorty in the 4mm from back position it just felt like the car didnt have enough rear grip on medium bite, car seemed to swing hard on mid-exit. using a shorty i think i would go back to the 4mm trail setting to smooth it out some, and add a 1mm spacer on the rear brace.
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simply put.. here is pack.. yes its high speed compression dampening.

take your car and hold it level about 2 feet off the ground... drop it... your shocks compress quickly as your car may or may not bottom out... that is pack.. its how it affects your car under quick impacts like coming off a jump. if you have more or bigger holes the oil in your shock passes thru them more quickly and would cause your car to bottom out pretty hard...

the more pack you have the quicker it slows your shock under high impact.

to get the same static.. or how it feels when you push down on the car on the bench.. static feel... you use a lighter oil with smaller or less piston holes or a heavier oil with larger or more holes..

hope that helps.
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Originally Posted by BIGSKI15
Don't forget which car had the fast lap, top 5 and top 10 jake.... Wish I could've stayed for the main but it was nice to compare the b5 and b5m. The m was different but the driving style was easily adaptable.
lol by like a tenth or so. but you also didnt have to drive with the group i had to the 2nd round.

and what happened on the other 5 laps? didnt you qual 3rd?
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Originally Posted by rigor
Sharp turns / 180's is where I was having the most issue. I got my hands on front flat arms today. Hoping OCRC still has the front tower tomorrow when I go back to run and tune most of the day.

EDIT: Wait... Is it the same front shock tower for both the B5R and B5M ?? I heard a different tower was needed for each front arm type ?? I can't go wrench for another few hours to find out the answer :P
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Amain had me confused for a few minutes. Thanks
To be clear and to allow more tuning confusion, either arm works with either tower.
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Old 03-17-2014, 07:38 PM
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Lol yes but I needed Marshalled 3 times, I know my fault, but your run and the other guy had clean runs.



Originally Posted by Jake S
lol by like a tenth or so. but you also didnt have to drive with the group i had to the 2nd round.

and what happened on the other 5 laps? didnt you qual 3rd?
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Old 03-17-2014, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BIGSKI15
Lol yes but I needed Marshalled 3 times, I know my fault, but your run and the other guy had clean runs.
did you not see me get taken out at the end of the straight in my tq run? lol
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