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Old 08-07-2015, 01:26 PM   #14941
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Everybody calls it droop man

Just be clear when you indicate what you're measuring, like "20.5mm exposed shaft."

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Maybe he wasn't talking about his shock... but some other shaft.
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Old 08-07-2015, 01:45 PM   #14942
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How effective will sharing setups be if everybody is using a different term for something? Without defined terms, communication becomes difficult. "droop", "shock length", and "stroke" are all very different things.

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Just be clear when you indicate what you're measuring, like "20.5mm exposed shaft."
Now you got it. "exposed shaft" is what we call the "stroke".



Perhaps I didn't articulated it well enough.. maybe these guys do it better.

http://www.rccaraction.com/blog/2011...al-with-droop/
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That's not droop, that's stroke length. If you want to measure shock stroke, you measure the length of the exposed shock shaft when it's pulled all the way out. (See picture from post above mine here)

Droop is difference in ride height between static sitting ride height, and how high the chassis is at the point the tires begin leave the ground.
If everything stays the same except ride height, won't the chassis be at the same height when the wheels come off the ground?

My point is that in a TC droop is not effected by ride height. It is how far the suspension travels down below a set point.
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If everything stays the same except ride height, won't the chassis be at the same height when the wheels come off the ground?

My point is that in a TC droop is not effected by ride height. It how far the suspension travels down below a set point.
Yes, but that isn't droop either. Droop isn't how high the chassis is when the wheels lift... its the difference between static ride height and how high the chassis is when the wheels lift off the ground. And yes.. TC droop IS affected by ride height, just the same. Chassis type doesn't matter. Don't confused droop, with downstops. Read the link I put up.
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How effective will sharing setups be if everybody is using a different term for something? Without defined terms, communication becomes difficult. "droop", "shock length", and "stroke" are all very different things.

Now you got it. "exposed shaft" is what we call the "stroke".



Perhaps I didn't articulated it well enough.. maybe these guys do it better.

http://www.rccaraction.com/blog/2011...al-with-droop/
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Thanks for the advice I didn't even think of those things. They slipped my mind. I will have to look at all of that and see what its all set at. I do just screw the shock ends on and not even think that it can cause issues also. As for tires I am running what I was told is the best for the track but I am going to try proline hole shots for the from instead of the ribs that I was told to use. I also honestly have no idea how to measure droop. I am getting a ride height gauge soon to help get that set proper.
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On your next practice day or race day pick out one of the better drivers at your track, one that runs a car like your own. Try and pit real close to this person. Get all setup in your pit and make a call to the best local pizzeria that delivers, make it a large or extra large with the works. Once pizza arrives, you will have numerous folks drooling from most orifices, just offer a slice to any and all for some tech support on setting up and understanding your car. You will have plenty of folks offering their help
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When you build the shocks you have to insert a shock pivot ball 91448 in the bottom in the shock eyelet.

Are they supposed to be tight?

Mine were tight. Tight enough that once the shocks were mounted I could disconnect the top mount and the bottom mount would hold the shock up straight.

How can I loosen up the lower eyelet and pivot ball?
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When you build the shocks you have to insert a shock pivot ball 91448 in the bottom in the shock eyelet.

Are they supposed to be tight?

Mine were tight. Tight enough that once the shocks were mounted I could disconnect the top mount and the bottom mount would hold the shock up straight.

How can I loosen up the lower eyelet and pivot ball?
They can be snug, but will losen up over a couple runs. Also, the screw that goes into the arm needs to be just barely snug too... don't over tighten.
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Would a b5m lite work good in mod on a high traction track?
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Would a b5m lite work good in mod on a high traction track?
Most of the mod guys at my track are running the lite kit.
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umm, Spensor, Tommy and pretty much everyone else fast is running the Lite at SRS this weekend. People need to stop thinking it is for stock....
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Most of the mod guys at my track are running the lite kit.
Cool thank you guys.
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umm, Spensor, Tommy and pretty much everyone else fast is running the Lite at SRS this weekend. People need to stop thinking it is for stock....
Well there are two kits available the standard and the light and the light is advertised to the stock racers so it is a pretty honest question I had the same one before I got mine, they should just drop the regular b5m the light is a much better value and it would eliminate any confusion. you would only have the best option available a B5M light.
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Well there are two kits available the standard and the light and the light is advertised to the stock racers so it is a pretty honest question I had the same one before I got mine, they should just drop the regular b5m the light is a much better value and it would eliminate any confusion. you would only have the best option available a B5M light.
Thank you. So is a lite kit with out the pucks is the way to go for mod? I started my rc break just as the b5m was taking off so not sure what everyone has been running...
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Thank you. So is a lite kit with out the pucks is the way to go for mod? I started my rc break just as the b5m was taking off so not sure what everyone has been running...
Its ready to go out of the box. If your tractions really low, you may want a 4 gear. If your tractions really high, you may want a low rider. I'm a fan of carbon chassis as well. Less weight, better flex, never tweaks. But ultimately, its great out of the box
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