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Old 08-07-2015, 09:44 AM   #14926
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So, I am building my sc5m. The ball studs look different. More dull looking. Are people seeing the same thing on the lite? Wondering if AE changed the studs to "fix" the ball cup "issue".
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So, I am building my sc5m. The ball studs look different. More dull looking. Are people seeing the same thing on the lite? Wondering if AE changed the studs to "fix" the ball cup "issue".
Yes, did notice same on my SC5M. Maybe the chrome plating is a bit thinner? Definitely no binding issue on the new build for me.
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Old 08-07-2015, 09:57 AM   #14928
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Yes, did notice same on my SC5M. Maybe the chrome plating is a bit thinner? Definitely no binding issue on the new build for me.
that is what I was wondering. Changing the studs is probably cheaper than the cup.
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You take some calipers and measure from the bottom of the shock to the top of the shock eyelet. With 3 gear I run 1 limiter all around and 21.5 front and 27.5 to 28mm rear. And let me tell you it is HUGE even going from 20.5 to 21 in the front is HUGE the car jumps and lands sooo much better. Ride height, Camber, and droop are some of the most important things to check at least a couple times a race day, I check ride height and camber before every run when racing.

Its tough as hell to do this with one hand and hold the camera with the other.

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You take some calipers and measure from the bottom of the shock to the top of the shock eyelet. With 3 gear I run 1 limiter all around and 21.5 front and 27.5 to 28mm rear. And let me tell you it is HUGE even going from 20.5 to 21 in the front is HUGE the car jumps and lands sooo much better. Ride height, Camber, and droop are some of the most important things to check at least a couple times a race day, I check ride height and camber before every run when racing.
That's not droop, that's stroke length. If you want to measure shock stroke, you measure the length of the exposed shock shaft when it's pulled all the way out. (See picture from post above mine here)

Droop is difference in ride height between static sitting ride height, and how high the chassis is at the point the tires begin leave the ground.
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That's not droop, that's stroke length. If you want to measure shock stroke, you measure the length of the exposed shock shaft when it's pulled all the way out. (See picture from post above mine here)

Droop is difference in ride height between static sitting ride height, and how high the chassis is at the point the tires begin leave the ground.
OK sorry for not using the "proper term". That's what I've always called it and everyone I know has called it.

And that's what I said to measure from the bottom of the shock to the top of the shock eyelet.
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That's not droop, that's stroke length. If you want to measure shock stroke, you measure the length of the exposed shock shaft when it's pulled all the way out. (See picture from post above mine here)

Droop is difference in ride height between static sitting ride height, and how high the chassis is at the point the tires begin leave the ground.
Dbowen, Cpt.America must of never ran a 1:8 scale car
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Watched the Adam drake vid but is there a droop screw in the b5m?
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Watched the Adam drake vid but is there a droop screw in the b5m?
no. we use limiters and the shock end for adjustments
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No droop screws. Just use washers in the shocks.

I was just using the video as an example to show how to measure droop.(one method)
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No droop screws. Just use washers in the shocks. I was just using the video as an example to show how to measure droop.(one method)
He's using calibers to measure his overall shock length, which for his given ride height, will give him a certain amount of droop. What he is showing you is how he changes the droop on the car, not his actual droop settings. This video is actually one of the sources of the confusion that is so common.

Here is an example of the difference (rear of car only, to keep it simple):

Lets say I run a stroke length of 27mm, and a ride height of 23mm. With the chassis sitting at 23mm, as I raise the chassis off the table, the tires will begin to lift when the chassis hits 40mm. This is a droop of 17mm.

Now, without changing my shock or stroke length at ALL, lets say I set my ride height to something totally bizzare, like 35mm, almost all the way up. The rear of the car will only rise 5mm before the tires come off the ground. My droop now, is 5mm. You can get drastically different droop settings with an unchanged shock length.

How do you CHANGE your droop?

1) If you aren't changing your ride height, you alter your droop by lengthening or shorting your shock length. If you have droop screws, you can limit shock length with those as well

2. If you want to keep the same droop but lower or raise the car, you will need to shorten or lengthen the shock to compensate. For example, if you are set at 23mm ride height, and like 17mm droop (also called chassis rise), if you lower your ride height to 22mm, you will need to shorten your shock by 1mm to keep the same droop settings, other wise you end up with 18mm droop.

It doesn't matter if you're running touring car, 1/10th SC, or 1/8th ebuggy... doop is droop. It's how far the chassis rises, starting at static ride height, before the tires lift off the ground.
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No droop screws. Just use washers in the shocks.

I was just using the video as an example to show how to measure droop.(one method)
Thanks masher I know I was going to say the same thing but thought I would try and keep it nice as possible!

But I just want to say that this thread has really gone off the deep end and isn't about helping people or talking about the car anymore its all about harassing people or correcting them to try and make yourself look good. Lets stop the arguing and bickering and starting helping people and talking about the car isn't that what this is here for?

Just my thoughts...
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Everybody calls it droop man

Just be clear when you indicate what you're measuring, like "20.5mm exposed shaft."

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