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Old 02-04-2015, 11:30 AM   #11341
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Really? Next your still going to tell me that the 3 gear and 4 gear top shafts are the same.
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Old 02-04-2015, 12:06 PM   #11342
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We had been running 1.6 front and rear locally for a while too with 32.5 in front and 27.5 in rear. We have found the 1.4 x 3 s give us more traction overall when used at all 4 corners. We are running 35 front and 30 rear for oil with great success. I feel the 1.4 x 3 with 30 gives good low speed dampening and packs up nice over the 1.6 with 27.5 for our given track.

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yeah, the 1.4s are popular here. Guys are running similar oils and such. I just never liked the 1.4s. I have them and have tried them. I always end up back on the 1.6s. And this kinda made me laught when I saw the B5M manual builds the car with 1.6s. I am NOT saying 1.4s dont work. They just dont work for me. But I run on very high bite clay with slicks. I posted a video of last weekends race on this thread, and a few people commented on the "Holy traction batman"
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Old 02-04-2015, 12:16 PM   #11344
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yeah, the 1.4s are popular here. Guys are running similar oils and such. I just never liked the 1.4s. I have them and have tried them. I always end up back on the 1.6s. And this kinda made me laught when I saw the B5M manual builds the car with 1.6s. I am NOT saying 1.4s dont work. They just dont work for me. But I run on very high bite clay with slicks. I posted a video of last weekends race on this thread, and a few people commented on the "Holy traction batman"
I agree, we are running on Medium grip on average here in the Midwest indoor tracks. I could see when the traction goes up it could provide almost too much traction. I also like the low speed vs high speed dampening it gives the chassis.

Thanks again for the input!

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I agree, we are running on Medium grip on average here in the Midwest indoor tracks. I could see when the traction goes up it could provide almost too much traction. I also like the low speed vs high speed dampening it gives the chassis.

Thanks again for the input!

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Yep, I get that 1.4s would help with low speed steering. When I ran 1.4s my car was diving too much and traction rolling. Sure if I went way up in oils and stuff i could probably get them to work. For me running slicks, it is 90% all about the foams, once you put clay slicks on the car. Once the rear foams are gone, the car wont turn no mater what you do, lol. We have 180s into jumps, so I like my car to square up faster. Thus, why my car is the way it is. On the upside, most people that drive my car really like it. Some guys like a much looser car. You know, the whole loose is fast thing. I prefer forgiving and able to drive it hard.


as for the guy asking for a shock package for jumping and bouncing. There are soooo many factors. How you land the car maters a lot. I saw Spencer Rivkin way way way over jumping at a club race, and his car always landed like it was on pillows. I asked him about his shock package, and his was pretty much the same as mine. When I watch more carefully, I noticed he liked to "whip" the car in the air. And when he landed, he likes the left front wheel to land first. I was playing around with this and other ways of pitching the car, and you can greatly effect how it lands and takes off. From my experience, I always try to get the front wheels down first. And of course down-siding is always preferred.
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Old 02-04-2015, 12:44 PM   #11347
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Yep, I get that 1.4s would help with low speed steering. When I ran 1.4s my car was diving too much and traction rolling. Sure if I went way up in oils and stuff i could probably get them to work. For me running slicks, it is 90% all about the foams, once you put clay slicks on the car. Once the rear foams are gone, the car wont turn no mater what you do, lol. We have 180s into jumps, so I like my car to square up faster. Thus, why my car is the way it is. On the upside, most people that drive my car really like it. Some guys like a much looser car. You know, the whole loose is fast thing. I prefer forgiving and able to drive it hard.


as for the guy asking for a shock package for jumping and bouncing. There are soooo many factors. How you land the car maters a lot. I saw Spencer Rivkin way way way over jumping at a club race, and his car always landed like it was on pillows. I asked him about his shock package, and his was pretty much the same as mine. When I watch more carefully, I noticed he liked to "whip" the car in the air. And when he landed, he likes the left front wheel to land first. I was playing around with this and other ways of pitching the car, and you can greatly effect how it lands and takes off. From my experience, I always try to get the front wheels down first. And of course down-siding is always preferred.
You are 100% correct on this! My car as well would flat land and slap some at times off the larger jump if not down siding the back of the jump. But we have some jumps that it is too slow to roll... I have also found that landing with the front wheels down first just a little or doing a little whip and landing with one side first just a little allows me to get up on the throttle much faster and prevent slap.
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iam back on line just got the 3 gear box at a main time to swap
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You guys running 3x1.4 30wt is it stock or mod?.....what springs?

I run 2x1.6 30wt white springs when the track is smooth....
when track is bumpy I'll run 2x1.7 32.5 green springs...

intrested to see what the 3x1.4 would do..
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You guys running 3x1.4 30wt is it stock or mod?.....what springs?

I run 2x1.6 30wt white springs when the track is smooth....
when track is bumpy I'll run 2x1.7 32.5 green springs...

intrested to see what the 3x1.4 would do..
I am usually running 1.4 x 3 pistons with 30 weight ae oil and white springs. Been the best yet for me at our track.

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Really? Next your still going to tell me that the 3 gear and 4 gear top shafts are the same.
I was asking questions not giving people answers, I was trying to figure out what all was needed to run 3 gears
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Well looks like I will give the 3X1.4's a go. My set up has been getting worse and worse every week, so i decided to tear everything apart, rebuild all four shocks, diff, plastics, and even throw some Alum. and lightweight goodies on there and start over.. I've been wanting to try out a different spring/piston/oil, figured I might as well try it now. Thanks for the suggestions on the pistons. I will giver her a try
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Lol glad your back on line Vito... was worried about you for a minute
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What does this have to do with a B5M?
sorry for off topic, I use different batteries in my B5M for stock racing and can't remember the last time I checked their IR so thought I would ask. We were discussing Reedy and Orion batteries a few pages back and their performance in a B5M and I shot off topic.

Socket thanks for info.

I moved from a front at 1.6 at 32 to a 1.4 at 32 with grey and have the rear at 1.6 green tonight in stock, felt pretty good. My son ran the old B4.2 bumper which looked huge now a days, but looks to protect much better. Now is that back on topic .
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Has anyone tried the MIP bypass kit in their shocks? Just put them in last week, to give me a bit faster rebound (valve on top of piston) and really did not notice too much of a difference. My theory was to get it to transfer quicker from side to side when running through an S section. Anyone try this, and if so , suggestions or thoughts?
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