Originally Posted by gticlay

Ya know, for those of you running on a "clay" track, if you are using soft or supersoft tires and don't have traction, this is probably exactly your problem - clay tracks need clay compound. Every year, at our track, people buy M4 or super soft tires hoping, wishing, they will be 'softer' and work better on the track. Yes, we all do things to the tires to make them softer, but only for a softer MC or clay compound. Non clay tires just don't work as well as clay tires do on a clay track. Recently Pro-Line reformulated their clay compound and made it considerably softer - first it was called the "double dot" formula but now it just comes with the single dot on it. They work LIKE the old compound softened by whatever method people use, but without stuff on them - actually even better IMO. There's all kinds of tire choices and some companies even have 2 clay compounds but man, if you aren't using a clay compound and don't have traction, that's mostly likely why. Just make sure they are really broken in. They will feel like driving on ice at first which is probably why many people try other stuff when really their tires need to be halfway worn down before they start getting traction. Anyway, this was meant to be helpful...

Originally Posted by Rybeau40

Would the Schelle Slipper setup be good for mod class B5M or would the stock VTS slipper be better due to more weight?

Originally Posted by bambambennett

I have to disagree with Mr. GTI. As the norm, a clay compound works well. Sometimes track prep,or lack of, causes one to run a SS or even a megasoft like a JC black. I am lucky to run on a few tracks here in Socal that have amazing traction, but not always. Near the end of the track's life, before the next layout, the tracks tend to lean towards supersoft tire compounds for 2 reasons. First, the clay becomes so packed, watering sometimes won't seep in and tack up. Second, blue groove happens which requires a supersoft compound. My experience is to use a tire like a clay De-javu on a totally fresh track build that generates loose topsoil, then move on to a clay Typo for the next couple-few weeks(depends on the maintenance). When the track is 4-5 weeks old, it is always best to go to a supersoft Typo. This method works at the 2 tracks I run on most. One of my tracks doesn't allow saucing, so tire selection becomes even more critical. Yes clay tires are made for clay, but some tracks end up with blue groove which requires softer than a clay tire.

Originally Posted by protc3

Im going to try this 40 gram weight i made to see how it does in loose conditions. The car is awesome but the rear motor still has a more planted feel. Hopefully, this will give me the best of both. I just hope it doesnt suck.

Originally Posted by asc6000

adding weight.... Colin Chapman is turning over in his grave.