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Old 01-24-2014, 07:49 AM   #661
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correct. They use the aluminium chassis because it is easier to find a stiff, durable and clean design.
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Old 01-24-2014, 08:01 AM   #662
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Just curious, why does the team associated drivers in the Reedy Race continue to use the b4.2/c4 when there is already the b5/b5m?

I would assume that since this buggy has been announced they would be showcasing it in this important race.
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"Responsible for working on the Associated B5, asked why they arenít running the new car he said it was down to simply a lack of cars to distribute to their team drivers with only one full car currently in existence."
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:54 AM   #663
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I want that mid motor...NOW!
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Old 01-24-2014, 11:17 AM   #664
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The graphite b4 chassis was too stiff so we know it's easy enough to make a stiff molded chassis and a flat aluminum plate with no bracing is quite flexy. I'd be interested to hear a more detailed explanation of the decisions.
I'm not a fan of aluminum chassis either (well, you don't sound like a fan of them anyway). One way to potentially build flex in would be to cut some thinner graphite chassis. We have a guy up here that does chassis so maybe I'll figure out a way to start a little new company for that kind of thing
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Old 01-24-2014, 11:19 AM   #665
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yeah, I am not a huge alum chassis fan either. they get tore up easily and most club racer never realize their issues are a tweaked chassis.
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Old 01-24-2014, 11:22 AM   #666
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I prefer good old carbon fiber. They can be as flimsy or as stiff as you need them to be with add on reinforcing ribs. I've got a pin router and make my own chassis. Using the bolt on B5 front nose plate would make that easy.
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Old 01-24-2014, 11:27 AM   #667
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are you going to mount the sidepods with the cf, or go completely custom? CF get tore up on my track. Lots of rocks in the dirt. last week a fist sized rock made its way on the straight away.
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I'm not a fan of aluminum chassis either (well, you don't sound like a fan of them anyway). One way to potentially build flex in would be to cut some thinner graphite chassis. We have a guy up here that does chassis so maybe I'll figure out a way to start a little new company for that kind of thing
Prefer the stiffer alloy because mid motor is designed for high traction .

If you need more grip using the rear motor car is the better solution .
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Old 01-24-2014, 11:34 AM   #669
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I generally go completely custom on my cars. If they get torn up I'll just go back into the garage to make another! I generally tear more things up in the street at home than I do at a track. It'll be a while before I pick up a B5. I'm still working on my 210 which I know you hate!!! The funny thing is that by the time I'm done with it, it'll probably be the car they should have always built since I've changed quite a bit.
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yeah, the 210 is the least favorite 2wd that I have owned. I go back and forth on the rm vs mm. I am unsure which I will get first to do a shoot out with my current fav 2wd buggy.
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Prefer the stiffer alloy because mid motor is designed for high traction .

If you need more grip using the rear motor car is the better solution .
I hear you WC. I'm just saying three flex chassis could be made - one that is the stock flex but couldn't bend or tweak like al does, a stiffer one, and a more flexy one. And I am starting out with the RM but pretty sure I'll get both for next year.
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The funny thing about that car (210) is that I came to the conclusion a while back that for anything other than blinky mode that in rear motor a saddle configuration centered on the chassis was nice and in mid motor a saddle configuration against the motor was best. AE comes out with these cars and proves that I was on to something except they effectively turned the side by side saddle configuration by 90 degrees in RM mode. I couldn't make the car handle the way I wanted it to with a shorty and the car is already so heavy that if I had to use a long stick pack, I couldn't get the weight where I wanted it. I don't like the chassis with bolt on sides and it's thousand screws which clearly AE doesn't like either. AE has taken what I like about the 210 and integrated it into a better laid out car and chassis design. I still personally prefer to run 3 gear in MM mode and if I can't get the car to work run 3 gear RM. I just don't like MM4 so I'm a bit torn on which B5 as a result.
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Old 01-24-2014, 11:58 AM   #673
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maybe they will the the 4 gear right...soon we will fine out.
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What is with the steering links on both cars? The o-ring to prop up the swept forward outer ballcup just looks cheesy to me. I'm guessing they did that for the link to clear the front shock?
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Old 01-24-2014, 12:14 PM   #675
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yeah, I believe so. there are other cars that do the same thing
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