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Old 08-10-2014, 11:21 AM   #6721
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No different with set up but different driving style because of different throttle control.

Mod is smooth & smaller throttle inputs.

Stock is punched & lot more throttle to keep speed.

17.5 weights more then 7.5 & should be noted.
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Old 08-10-2014, 11:31 AM   #6722
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Swap motors between both rides.

A slower car can get away with a poor tune easier.
Faster the speed the more important tune becomes.
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Old 08-10-2014, 11:35 AM   #6723
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Okay also to go along with getting use to mod I see that most the of the fast mod guys still run 100%/80%.. For me to have a decent ride I am at like 90%/30%.

What esc settings are they changing for the brake aren't so aggressive?
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Old 08-10-2014, 11:55 AM   #6724
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Okay also to go along with getting use to mod I see that most the of the fast mod guys still run 100%/80%.. For me to have a decent ride I am at like 90%/30%.

What esc settings are they changing for the brake aren't so aggressive?
Have no idea what they use.

Recommend to start 100% /78% (EPA)
Adjust from there if needed..
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Old 08-10-2014, 06:05 PM   #6725
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Ran my mod car with al of the weight in it yesterday. Felt so much better then my lightened stock car, was night and day. Ordered a square pack for the stock car just so I don't have to rip it all apart to take the lightweight stuff out of it. Will test later in the week. Shotries and a lightweight setup are basically useless to me. My stock out of the box B5R right now feels the best out of the three cars. Considering how hot and humid it has been here in Southern California 90 + degrees inside at the track! should I thicken up by a half weight my shock oils?
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So I know this sounds like a stupid question, should my mod car be able to handle just like my mod car with the same power? Or will the two always feel pretty different?

My stock car is HOOKED up, I almost have that setup on my mod car but not quite yet. If I put the same setup on both cars should the drive similar even though they have such a power difference?

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They will be about the same at the same speed. Once you open up the mod they won't feel the same anymore. This is because of the speed/force difference. More speed = more force. The car will roll, dive and depending on traction slide more(think of driving your car around a corner at 20 and same corner at 50...)
The timing will also be different because of the added speed.


Usually if you get a car set up good for mod it will feel good with a stock motor in it too, just not the other way around. Another big thing is making small adjustments and make one at a time. That way you know if what you did made it closer or further from what you wanted.
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Old 08-11-2014, 05:34 AM   #6727
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Hi,

Gonna be running the B5m on a low traction track soon. The control tyre is the Proline Caliber (http://prolineracing.com/tires/calib...gy-rear-tires/)

Can anyone point me to a good starting set-up for the the B5m on a low traction track.

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Old 08-11-2014, 05:42 AM   #6728
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Ran my mod car with al of the weight in it yesterday. Felt so much better then my lightened stock car, was night and day. Ordered a square pack for the stock car just so I don't have to rip it all apart to take the lightweight stuff out of it. Will test later in the week. Shotries and a lightweight setup are basically useless to me. My stock out of the box B5R right now feels the best out of the three cars. Considering how hot and humid it has been here in Southern California 90 + degrees inside at the track! should I thicken up by a half weight my shock oils?
If you find you like a heavier car, which I do as well, then I suggest you only worry about making the rotating mass lighter (for stock only). Do everything in the gear box light (pucks, topshaft, gears, triad, etc) but keep your square pack and put the aluminum option parts on. That will keep you in the 'heavy' car range and give you better acceleration with the 17.5 motor.
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Old 08-11-2014, 08:41 AM   #6729
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I pulled the trigger on the B5M. Sold my B4.2 to a buddy. Was going to wait a bit to see if they were going to release a FT, but had a good day of poker playing online to pay for this beast!

Will be building it while waiting around at the Wicked Weekend in GA. Went ahead and got the Al screws, brass C & D, Alu front pin holder and the lunsford turnbucks' any last min build or setup tips not already listed on the first page? Will mainly be running it on dry clay that is grooved but dusty. Starting out the the SMC 4600 shorties, but also have some Orion saddle packs I hope are still good to try out.
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Old 08-11-2014, 09:19 AM   #6730
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Hi,

Gonna be running the B5m on a low traction track soon. The control tyre is the Proline Caliber (http://prolineracing.com/tires/calib...gy-rear-tires/)

Can anyone point me to a good starting set-up for the the B5m on a low traction track.

Thanks,

MiCk B. :-)
The box setup is really good. Only change I made was adding weight behind the battery. My saddle pack is very light for a saddle pack though. It weighs 267 grams and I have about 49 grams of weight added (1 3/4 oz). It helped calm the car down and give some more rear traction. Running JConcepts Rips in front.
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Old 08-11-2014, 09:44 AM   #6731
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I have a question about the suggesting gearing in the manual.

I have a Turnigy TrackStar 10.5T/3730kV motor. The manual says to run 24/81 for a 10.5T Reedy motor, but a 21/81 with a 3300 or 3900 kV motor. I believe the Reedy 10.5T motor is a similar kV. Why would their gearing recommendations be contradictory?
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Old 08-11-2014, 10:00 AM   #6732
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I have a Turnigy TrackStar 10.5T/3730kV motor. The manual says to run 24/81 for a 10.5T Reedy motor, but a 21/81 with a 3300 or 3900 kV motor. I believe the Reedy 10.5T motor is a similar kV. Why would their gearing recommendations be contradictory?
If you have a 10.5 turn motor then go with the 10.5 gearing recommendation. Neither 3300kv and 3900kv are the same as a 3730kv. Not sure why this is even an issue.
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Old 08-11-2014, 10:07 AM   #6733
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I am picking up a Fantom Apex2 (same as trinity killshot I think). Does anyone know if the shaft will be rubbing the gear cover. I ran a Fantom D3.5 this past week and it slightly rubbed.
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Old 08-11-2014, 10:11 AM   #6734
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Does 21/81 sound about right for a 8.5 Tekin Gen 2 system? Gearing chart suggested 22t for a reedy 8.5. Main track is about mid-sized for an indoor track has a couple of spots you really need to accelerate quickly.
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Old 08-11-2014, 10:22 AM   #6735
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That's a bit small, go with 78/23...
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