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Old 06-25-2014, 07:53 AM   #5581
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How were your temps in 17.5 at SRS?
Good ever since I switched to hacker it hasn't been an issue. 31/72 40 degree timing coming off at 135 after 6 min
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I'm on vacation and one of the indoor tracks is carpet. I ended with Michael schoettler's set up because tcrc is said to have very high traction. I also installed a gear diff with 3000 weight oil.

The shop carries a lot of carpet tires and they suggested dboots terabytes in either A or B compound. I ran B compound only because they were out of A.

It is very good although I wish that I had gray springs to try.

It was my first time ever on carpet so I really wasn't sure but it has been great so far.

Also, there are carpet set ups on petitrc.com.
Went though the trouble & got some setup details for carpet .
Let me know how this works for you please..

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Ae orange or red spring
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2 mm under tower ball stud
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Schumacher mini pin, not sure which compound..
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Old 06-25-2014, 08:47 AM   #5583
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I'm so confused by some of the numbers I've seen posted on gearing and timing for this buggy.

I'm at 33/69 with 25 degrees of timing via ESC not endbell. Is the B5m trans 2.6:1? If so that puts my FDR at 5.44:1 which is significantly higher than some of the setups I've seen posted. Car is coming off after 5-6 minutes at 120 degrees F. Currently running RSX and D3.5 17.5 (ya, I know the RSX is overkill but it will eventually end up in a 4wd buggy, but that's beside the point).

Any input?
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I'm so confused by some of the numbers I've seen posted on gearing and timing for this buggy.

I'm at 33/69 with 25 degrees of timing via ESC not endbell. Is the B5m trans 2.6:1? If so that puts my FDR at 5.44:1 which is significantly higher than some of the setups I've seen posted. Car is coming off after 5-6 minutes at 120 degrees F. Currently running RSX and D3.5 17.5 (ya, I know the RSX is overkill but it will eventually end up in a 4wd buggy, but that's beside the point).

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If you are running any timing in the ESC and race at OCRC, then thats a no-no. Depending on motor, 33/69 with timing on the motor sounds about normal for blinky (what you should be at) 17.5 buggy. Each motor is different from another, and the gearing that works for me might not be best for you even if they are the same motors.
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yes most of the posts that you see here with similar gearing refer to 17.5 blinky no esc timing is allowed
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Good ever since I switched to hacker it hasn't been an issue. 31/72 40 degree timing coming off at 135 after 6 min
Hmm, not bad temps at all. What is your race weight?
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Hmm, not bad temps at all. What is your race weight?
Not sure I haven't weighed it. I have put on titanium tb's aluminum top shaft nova slipper to lighten up the drive train but that's it for weight. Running a full size servo and aeromodel 4800 90c battery weights 255 so im guessing around 1640ish. I am running the Phantom body with all the vents cut out for airflow. I'llbe aat w3 on Friday if you wanna check it out. Car runs great now I just gotta see where to find the upgrades for the person driving it lol
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Anyone have a fix for all the play in front wheel bearings?thought the play was in the trailing inserts so I glued them in this got rid of alot of the play, but there is still more I would like to get rid of.I can see the screw holding the axle in moveing around....maybe aftermarket bearings??

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Not sure I haven't weighed it. I have put on titanium tb's aluminum top shaft nova slipper to lighten up the drive train but that's it for weight. Running a full size servo and aeromodel 4800 90c battery weights 255 so im guessing around 1640ish. I am running the Phantom body with all the vents cut out for airflow. I'llbe aat w3 on Friday if you wanna check it out. Car runs great now I just gotta see where to find the upgrades for the person driving it lol
cool. I have the triad slipper and Ti TBs, and the topshaft is on my to do list. I am surprised your temps were that low with a weight over 1600. Have you run this setup on W3? Curious to see if temps are lower at SRS due to less wheel spin
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If you are running any timing in the ESC and race at OCRC, then thats a no-no. Depending on motor, 33/69 with timing on the motor sounds about normal for blinky (what you should be at) 17.5 buggy. Each motor is different from another, and the gearing that works for me might not be best for you even if they are the same motors.
Good to know! I'm an 1/8th scale guy, so just learning the ropes on the 1/10 buggy stuff. Was just easier to play with timing on the esc. I'll put it in "blinky" mode and adjust the end bell though.

And good to know I'm geared in the proper ballpark. I'm planning to do some more testing plus minus a pinion tooth to see any gains/losses.

So far, having so much fun going so much slower than I'm used to! I'm still a full second off of the really fast guys though even on my best laps.

Not sure how I'll ever make that up with the limited time I get at the track; but I'll have fun trying!

Thanks again for your time and input.
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cool. I have the triad slipper and Ti TBs, and the topshaft is on my to do list. I am surprised your temps were that low with a weight over 1600. Have you run this setup on W3? Curious to see if temps are lower at SRS due to less wheel spin
Temps are about 5-10 less at srs. Warehouse I was coming off at 122 with my telemetry and srs it was around 112-115. My telemetry is almost always exactly 12 deg cooler than actual temps so w3 I run 134ish and srs 126ish. I was running the same gearing with my tekin rs pro/trinity 17.5 combo and was pushing 160 at w3. The hacker has really impressed me I'm running the hacker esc and motor and I have noticeably more power and much lower temps

I have ceramic diff bearings too
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Just installed a set of K springs, red rear & gold fronts...

Been using Ae white rear & grey front.

Going to try um out right now.
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Schumacher mini pin, not sure which compound..
It's Schumacher yellow for carpet.

With a medium insert.

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TY MiCK

Only ran the springs one pack.
They seem ok, felt very similar to the Ae .
Won't know for sure with out a running in a club race next.


Most of our fast guys are using the combination I am testing.
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