the incubus

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To make life easier, simply buy a bag of machine screws with a phillips head just shorter than the depth of the cups and using a drill, drive them in and out to pre-thread for the turnbuckles. Additionally if your man hands still can't handle things, a dab of chapstick might make it easier to thread the turnbuckles in.

nordfink

Actually, I've used vaseline (which I'm certain is petroleum based) for the last couple of years because that's all thats around with the kids. Butter smooth ball cup adjustment and haven't noticed any swelling of plastic lol. Works just like chapstick. Different means to the same end, gets the job done.

Blacksmith

Been running this car for about a month now. First week out box stock, kit setup with a 13.5. Loved the car, tons of steering, great corner speed, landed like a cat. Tended to snap out the rear on corner exit, like it wanted to over rotate right at the end, but very drivable. Best lap time I have had in years.

Next time out, exact same setup and tires, but with my new 17.5 (Because our track is changing stock from 13.5 to 17.5) and the car was a monster. So twitchy it was useless. Over rotated in every corner. Would spin out in the straight when trying to correct my line for corner entry. Even the guys at our track who can drive anything said YUCK.

Been out a couple times since and have made a ton of setup changes. Have the car a LOT better but not right. ie.. the car is pretty good in now, and the twitch is gone but it pushes out so bad you almost have to stop to finish a corner. NO corner speed at all.

Anyway, I am going back to box stock and start over, but if anyone has any setup ideas for a 17.5 stock setup for a slick to med grip track it could be great. Thanks guys.

Wild Cherry

Wow !
Surprised many here have not gone though all the difficulties trying to adjust camber just after few days using the black grease.

RazzBarlow7

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The black grease is lithium based, not petroleum based. I also doubt your assertion that the plastic would "swell" from using a petroleum based grease. What is your source for this info? And if your answer is "team mates", what is THEIR source?

Mason

This sounds to me like you're trying to overdrive the car to keep up those 13.5 times. In any case, take 10 minutes to unlink the shocks, unmount the wheels and validate the arms move up and down freely under their own weight. make sure the shocks aren't inconsistently filled. and probably the biggest concern is how has the track changed since you got the car? drier? wetter? how long since its been down? oh and track temps.

Mason

one more thing related to weight change.. drag brake? perhaps this motor has more braking power?

JiuHaWong

Might as well buy something like this and pre-thread the ball cups. I still stand by my crescent wrench + cordless drill + low speed + chapstick method.

So what turnbuckles fit again? /s

Double Dee

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black grease 4 hands 2 pairs of pliers and turnbuckle wrench.
medichoice lip balm. 1 hand and a turnbuckle wrench

Double Dee

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I see kody set up is a lot diff on the springs. thay are stiff the b5m must be as fast as a 4w

Matt Trimmings

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One thing you need to be aware of if you plan on doing the screw to the ballcup to pre thread them is that you risk weakening it. Only one side of the turnbuckle is threaded "normal", the other is left hand thread. You would basically be threading a right hand screw in and then shoving a left hand in there. When building my B5m over the weekend I drilled the ballcups out with a 7/64 bit and then added a little bit of chapstick to the threads and have zero issues with adjusting them. Only added about 2minutes to the build.

Double Dee

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Thanks mike for let me drive your buggy. Nice ride i have my body off for paint and x rings and 3.14 to get still get

the incubus

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http://www.mcmaster.com/#left-hand-t...screws/=qzqq95

Matt Trimmings

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Where are the 3mm ones?? Seriously, if you need to purchase 100 left hand screws just to be able to pre thread your ballcups there are some other issues there.

edit: The price per screw is ridiculous....

Qwkrn U

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Got mine built and got some practice laps in with it last night. Fun car.
I was missing 4 screws , a friend was missing the rear 3 hole hub nuts. AE is cranking these things out and the QC is very lacking.