137LikesTeam Associated RC10 B5m Mid-Motor & Rear Motor Thread
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02-16-2014, 07:49 PM
#3631
http://youtu.be/iAu6j95uInE
Don't know if this has been posted here, but it gives a couple good looks at the car that are hard to see in pics as well as a brief shot of the back of the car.
Don't know if this has been posted here, but it gives a couple good looks at the car that are hard to see in pics as well as a brief shot of the back of the car.
02-16-2014, 09:28 PM
#3632
ASC 91495
There is a part 91495 that is the Factory Team x-ring rebuild kit. I know the x-rings are an upgrade but in this rebuild kit the spacer and hat bushings are included. Are these these spacers and hat bushings any different than what comes with the kit or are they the same
http://www.teamassociated.com/parts/details/91495/
http://www.teamassociated.com/parts/details/91495/
02-16-2014, 09:36 PM
#3633
I wonder how this will balance out weight wise with a 200g shorty vs the 300g square
02-16-2014, 10:12 PM
#3634
Tech Apprentice
iTrader: (3)
question for you guys who have done MM versus RM recently, regardless of brand, etc.
In general, when you had say tire compound "A" work for RM, when you went MM on the same track, how much of a change did you notice by going with a different compound specifically for MM?
What I am wondering is how much of a change in compound can help with gaining traction for MM versus what RM is seeing. So say an M3 compound works great for RM, but you need more traction, maybe M4 then for MM?
last time I ran a MM vehicle was a conversion back when the Academy GV2 was still being supported in the USA, a PSI Racing conversion that when we tuned the rear end for traction, it was very fast and planted. Watching a fellow racer with his SCT version of the conversion turn inside the RM designs consistently versus what he was able to do with RM on very loose conditions here really peaked my interest in seeing a MM design in the future from the likes of AE.
Anyway, right now toying with the idea of picking one up.
In general, when you had say tire compound "A" work for RM, when you went MM on the same track, how much of a change did you notice by going with a different compound specifically for MM?
What I am wondering is how much of a change in compound can help with gaining traction for MM versus what RM is seeing. So say an M3 compound works great for RM, but you need more traction, maybe M4 then for MM?
last time I ran a MM vehicle was a conversion back when the Academy GV2 was still being supported in the USA, a PSI Racing conversion that when we tuned the rear end for traction, it was very fast and planted. Watching a fellow racer with his SCT version of the conversion turn inside the RM designs consistently versus what he was able to do with RM on very loose conditions here really peaked my interest in seeing a MM design in the future from the likes of AE.
Anyway, right now toying with the idea of picking one up.
So, definitely mess around with tires. I'd guess that if your track is really high grip, you'll still settle on the same tires. I think some people give up on MM too soon before figuring the tire situation and setup out.
02-16-2014, 10:49 PM
#3635
There is a part 91495 that is the Factory Team x-ring rebuild kit. I know the x-rings are an upgrade but in this rebuild kit the spacer and hat bushings are included. Are these these spacers and hat bushings any different than what comes with the kit or are they the same
http://www.teamassociated.com/parts/details/91495/
http://www.teamassociated.com/parts/details/91495/
02-17-2014, 04:22 AM
#3636
and gets rid of the minor slop in the front axles.
Jason
02-17-2014, 05:13 AM
#3637
02-17-2014, 06:46 AM
#3638
Maybe you should pick up some new loctite. Could it be that its old and not working as good as it should be. I loctited mine in from the beginning and then made trackside changes needing to re loctite the screw, with it not having enough time to 'set' before running again and i never had an issue with the screw backing out.
02-17-2014, 06:52 AM
#3639
I can only speak for myself, but run almost exclusively mid-motor mod at an indoor track that can be anywhere from low to medium-high grip depending on prep and the time of year. With mid, I *sometimes* liked a tread that had just a bit more sidebite. In the late spring/summer I might switch from clay to SS compounds for the rear. By comparison, with RM I'd never switch to SS tires on our track. In even the slickest, lowest grip conditions on a track that has a rep for being loose, I would always run MM and be faster.
So, definitely mess around with tires. I'd guess that if your track is really high grip, you'll still settle on the same tires. I think some people give up on MM too soon before figuring the tire situation and setup out.
So, definitely mess around with tires. I'd guess that if your track is really high grip, you'll still settle on the same tires. I think some people give up on MM too soon before figuring the tire situation and setup out.
Very tight, small track, very fun too.
A larger one that does 1/8 on it commonly also can be very dry and loose as well. Fun stuff.
After traveling to AL and Waflets track, heck, that was like medium traction compared to out here when I played around on it
Anyone heard if the front plastic hingepin brace on the RM version at least is more durable than what was commonly upgraded on the B4?
02-17-2014, 07:30 AM
#3640
He said it's an upgrade if you like the blue, but certainly not remotely necessary. Looking at the manual and the car in person, it looks much more stout than what was on the B4 for sure.
I agree though, that was one of the first parts I looked at.
02-17-2014, 07:44 AM
#3642
Where are people finding the front axles and hexes? AE the only place?
02-17-2014, 08:42 AM
#3644
edited Trcr ShowDown Tour Set-up
This set- up is the same as the winner of Scotty Ernst ShowDown Tour use last weekend.
*note: 10 gram ballast on the nose used for to improve forward traction & smoother steering into our very sharp sweeper
Track info
Med size track
Clay
Extra med high traction
Moist
Smooth
60 degree temperature
Front Suspension
Ackerman setting = 2m
Camber -1
Toe 0
Ride height 24m
Arm type standard
Tower standard
Caster block insert 5
Kick up angle 25
notes
Alum steering arm
10 gram ballast in front of servo
Axle height middle
Ball stud spacing 2m & #1 hole on tower
Trailing axle 4m
Castor block spacing ,front 2a & rear 0
Shock position = #2 on tower,B hole on arm
Rear Suspension
Camber -1
Ride height 24m
Hub spacing,back
Rear link setting A hub,B hole,down
Ball stud spacing on tower 1m , #1 hole
Arm mounts
Inboard toe = 3 degree
Anti squat = 2 degree
Hub insert = 0 degree
Shock position = #2 on tower & #1 on arm
Drivetrain
Ball diff, tight
Shocks
Front = 3 x 1.4 , 35w , white spring, 3 limiters, 19.5 stroke , 5m cup offset
Rear = 2 x 1.6 , 30w ,white spring,2 limiters,26m stroke,5m cup offset
Tires
JConcept gold Bar Codes, open cell front insert, close cell aka red for rear
Reedy 8.5 24t/78s
Reedy 25c Wolf saddle pack
*note: 10 gram ballast on the nose used for to improve forward traction & smoother steering into our very sharp sweeper
Track info
Med size track
Clay
Extra med high traction
Moist
Smooth
60 degree temperature
Front Suspension
Ackerman setting = 2m
Camber -1
Toe 0
Ride height 24m
Arm type standard
Tower standard
Caster block insert 5
Kick up angle 25
notes
Alum steering arm
10 gram ballast in front of servo
Axle height middle
Ball stud spacing 2m & #1 hole on tower
Trailing axle 4m
Castor block spacing ,front 2a & rear 0
Shock position = #2 on tower,B hole on arm
Rear Suspension
Camber -1
Ride height 24m
Hub spacing,back
Rear link setting A hub,B hole,down
Ball stud spacing on tower 1m , #1 hole
Arm mounts
Inboard toe = 3 degree
Anti squat = 2 degree
Hub insert = 0 degree
Shock position = #2 on tower & #1 on arm
Drivetrain
Ball diff, tight
Shocks
Front = 3 x 1.4 , 35w , white spring, 3 limiters, 19.5 stroke , 5m cup offset
Rear = 2 x 1.6 , 30w ,white spring,2 limiters,26m stroke,5m cup offset
Tires
JConcept gold Bar Codes, open cell front insert, close cell aka red for rear
Reedy 8.5 24t/78s
Reedy 25c Wolf saddle pack
02-17-2014, 08:53 AM
#3645
Appears to be same setup as the one on petit rc besides the added weight?