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Old 04-07-2014, 11:30 AM   #3256
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I'm running black springs all around. What oils are you running?
Black springs all around? Sounds too soft. The white springs all around is pretty dialed. 1.6 pistons all around is good too. 32/30 oil front/back or 30/27. Should feel pretty good. I like the inner most hole for mounting the rear shocks on the tower, like Maifield's setups have reflected.

EDIT: Note, these setup tips are for indoor clay.
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Old 04-07-2014, 11:32 AM   #3257
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Old 04-07-2014, 02:05 PM   #3259
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Gull wing for lower traction, they tip in more but steer less in the middle & exit.

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Tip in is smoother , a little more steering in the middle and exit.
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Thanks for the replies on the gearing. Yeah idk it's weird that it gets so warm. I thought about the undergearing too but if I gear up anymore the car feels like it has no low end around the technical sections in 17.5. I am going to do some more playing around tomorrow with just gearing and see what I can figure out. Also on Maifields Warehouse3 setup it says he is running 23/81 gearing with a 7.5 and timing 0. Would that mean he retarded the timing back to 0 on the motor or left it at the stock 20? I'm having issues at 21/81 with my 7.5 getting hot and stock timing of 21/81.. so maybe that explains the 0 timing.
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Thanks for the replies on the gearing. Yeah idk it's weird that it gets so warm. I thought about the undergearing too but if I gear up anymore the car feels like it has no low end around the technical sections in 17.5. I am going to do some more playing around tomorrow with just gearing and see what I can figure out. Also on Maifields Warehouse3 setup it says he is running 23/81 gearing with a 7.5 and timing 0. Would that mean he retarded the timing back to 0 on the motor or left it at the stock 20? I'm having issues at 21/81 with my 7.5 getting hot and stock timing of 21/81.. so maybe that explains the 0 timing.
Zero means zero timing not what it came set at from the manufacture. Try going up to a 23 just watch temps closely. Brushless motors can produce more power all the way around when geared properly.
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Thanks for the replies on the gearing. Yeah idk it's weird that it gets so warm. I thought about the undergearing too but if I gear up anymore the car feels like it has no low end around the technical sections in 17.5. I am going to do some more playing around tomorrow with just gearing and see what I can figure out. Also on Maifields Warehouse3 setup it says he is running 23/81 gearing with a 7.5 and timing 0. Would that mean he retarded the timing back to 0 on the motor or left it at the stock 20? I'm having issues at 21/81 with my 7.5 getting hot and stock timing of 21/81.. so maybe that explains the 0 timing.
maybe you are expecting too much. switching from 7.5 to 17.5 is a pretty huge difference. also batteries make a huge difference in stock.
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My car has a little push going in and then gets better mid and exit and I'm running gw arms. Guess I don't need flat arms.
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Black springs all around? Sounds too soft. The white springs all around is pretty dialed. 1.6 pistons all around is good too. 32/30 oil front/back or 30/27. Should feel pretty good. I like the inner most hole for mounting the rear shocks on the tower, like Maifield's setups have reflected.

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Thanks for the advise. I'll try all whites tomorrow before switching oil
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Are you downsiding the landing? I normally see this on flat landings.
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This is kinda crazy. I was able to drop another 22 grams off the car. I normally run for 5 minutes and my temps are 160-165. Today we were doing 7 minute heats and my motor only got up to 135 degrees. I was pretty shocked. I was able to turn the timing up 2 degrees on the motor and temps got up to 150. My car should be close to the 1500 mark i think this week with the lighter battery.......maybe dropping the weight helps

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I've been having trouble with heat with my B5ms. I have a car for both stock and mod. I haven't seen a whole lot about that trouble in this thread but I did see where dropping weight has made it better especially in stock. My stock comes in at almost 1600 grams but I have it geared at 29/75 which is pretty conservative compared to others and with 30degrees of motor timing in blinky mode. So I don't quite get why it's getting hot. Is it the weight? I ran the same setup on my 4.2 and it used to come off just warm. I don't see how some guys are running gearing like 69/32 with 17.5 and not getting way too hot? I'm running on an indoor track that isn't big but it isn't tight. Even with my mod car I'm running a Reedy 7.5 with gearing at 21/81 and it will come off at 185 and that's with stock timing at 20 degrees. I just saw Maifields latest setup and he's running the Reedy 7.5 gearing at 23/81 with 0 degrees of timing. Does that mean he retarded the timing on the motor from the stock 20 to 0? Or is 0 in reference to the stock 20? If that makes any sense lol. Any tips are really appreciated. My 17.5 is also a Sonic Mach 2.
Don't know why your so hot, I run my SchuurSpeed at 69/32 and 40 degrees without it even getting to hot to touch. Is it the same Reedy you ran in the centro or another one, if its another one maybe you got one that runs hot.You could cut out the vent in the body that over the top of the motor and see if that helps. And, everyone say it with me, losing weight will help.
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Anyone have any issues with the pin in the bone not being center? It looks like it's not drilled centered. I didn't notice till I went to put it in the diff outdrive and it wouldn't go. Spun it 180 and it went in. Haven't finished the build yet, but that can't be good for balance.
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Thanks wheelman for the answer on the timing. Bill pear, it is the same motor/ESC setup out of my previous car. I am getting a set of the lighter shorty packs from a main so I'll see if that'll help. I already have the aluminum screw kit and top shaft. It wouldn't bother me so much if I didn't notice it during the run. Probably the last minute or minute and a half of a 5 minute qualifier the throttle gets incredibly soft to the point where I can't clear doubles that I could clear easily in the beginning of the run. I've tried a different battery to check that and it was the same thing.
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